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Old Jun 16th 2012, 05:16 PM   #1
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Question Substituting a 190 for the 200 rear tire

Anybody done it?
The 200 seems like overkill for the road, and a 190 would be lighter.
I know it will fit; but will it affect the performance of the traction control.
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Old Jun 16th 2012, 05:38 PM   #2
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Totally not worth doing that man. The went up to the 200 for a reason, don't ask me cuz I have no idea, but the weight you are talking about is so nominal its not even worth it.
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Old Jun 16th 2012, 05:59 PM   #3
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Additionally it'll totally change your suspension geometry and setup. Agree, I think the 200 is the same deal as with the 190, manufacturers one-up each other, just like years ago from the 180 to the 190, now the 200, next year all the liter bikes will be on 200s.
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Old Jun 16th 2012, 06:41 PM   #4
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I don't know. I think it will change the suspension geometry, but may be for the better. Or even so little it won't be noticeable. I along with most everyone on a tracked 996 changed the 190 to the 180 for a better turn in. I don't need tires yet, so it'll be interesting to see others try it out on the track and see if it is any better or no difference. Changing to a 190 will do one thing for sure...lighten up the payment a bit.
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Old Jun 16th 2012, 07:05 PM   #5
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ducati spent so much time money and effort and came up with putting on a 200 tire. their engineers and computer equations as well as test riders with their results and you (no offense intended) out of nowhere say the 190 would be better and the 200 is overkill. give me a break save the weight i love when people say that like your racing world super bike or moto gp. 99.9 % on the people on here will never extract 100% of the performance of this bike so even if you saved 15 lbs you wouldn't know the difference.
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Old Jun 16th 2012, 07:06 PM   #6
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i have another idea before you go to the track only drink water for the week so you will be 5 lbs lighter and it will make a difference too
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Old Jun 16th 2012, 07:33 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by mark419ny View Post
i have another idea before you go to the track only drink water for the week so you will be 5 lbs lighter and it will make a difference too
I don't think he was intending to lighten up the bike as much as lighten up the wheels. Lightening up wheels is one of the best improvements you can do to a bike. Make it turn a whole lot better.

And absolutely you are correct that most if not everyone on these forums will unlikely get every bit of the performance out of this bike. Or a 600cc for that matter. But with that in mind changing a tire may not be noticeable either, in that thinking.

It was all just brainstorming and conversation about the new tires. Not like anyone is testing the expert knowledge...
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Changing from a 200/55 to a 190/55 decreases the ride height of the bike by 5.5mm. and a 1.7% decrease in rolling circumference. These numbers are assuming the tires are true to spec, which is commonly not the case. The 190/55 is effectively the same circumference as the 200/55 is when at the end of its life. Frankly these numbers are close enough to be what you might get from two different makers in the same size tire.

These changes are pretty small and I'd be surprised if the traction control was refined enough to be sensitive enough to be significantly affected. With respect to the geometry being changed, I'd think if you raised the ride height in the rear by 5.5mm you'd be able to get very close to the stock geometry when upright. Of course at lean angles, the geometry is going to be a bit different with a narrower rear.
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Read your owners manual. In each section that discusses the use, setting and determination of said, the manual repeated states that the traction control, abs and ebs are calibrated for Pirelli Diablo Rossi SuperCorsa tires. They specifically state that use of another tire make and/or size will affect their performace of the ABS, EBC and TC and warn that you will need to experiment for what works best for you and even suggests turning the feature(s) off.
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Originally Posted by efna View Post
Read your owners manual. In each section that discusses the use, setting and determination of said, the manual repeated states that the traction control, abs and ebs are calibrated for Pirelli Diablo Rossi SuperCorsa tires. They specifically state that use of another tire make and/or size will affect their performace of the ABS, EBC and TC and warn that you will need to experiment for what works best for you and even suggests turning the feature(s) off.
While I have read this in the manual myself I also recall reading manuals from past bikes I have owned that said similar stuff. Example: my Honda said it was only acceptable to use Bridgestone’s or Dunlop’s on their bikes, surely we know this to be bogus. In honesty I think certain bikes prefer a softer or harder carcass as well as rider’s preferences but the DTC came with settings. If one doesn't like how well it performed with a certain setting for a given tire they can always change it.
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