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Old Jun 11th 2013, 06:35 AM   #41
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When I got my foot pegs I thought the same thing. Bike is currently in the shop getting first service done and they are also tossing on these mirrors.
Dang...would have liked to use your bike as the guinea pig so I can make sure I do my install properly.
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Old Jun 11th 2013, 06:36 AM   #42
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Had a quick discussion with PJ today and here's the scoop. The Veloces come out of the box with no connectors on them (bare wires). So no matter how you decide to do the install you are either going to be mating them to Rizoma connectors, cutting off the stock connectors and mating them to those or directly connecting them to the wires coming from the bike. The connectors that Lee mentions above (EE079H) do match the stock connectors on the bike, but you need to attach them to the mirrors before you can plug them in. PJ has the connectors in stock and I am ordering a set so I'll know what's what this weekend when I do the install. I figure it makes sense to leave the stock connectors on the stock mirrors so I can switch back if I damage one of the Rizomas, decide I hate them, want to sell the stock mirrors, etc. etc.

I'll take pics and post them up so people will have a reference for the options with the wiring/connectors, etc.
Just to be clear, these mirrors are made to fit the Panigale, you didn't order the "universal" model
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Just to be clear, these mirrors are made to fit the Panigale, you didn't order the "universal" model
Who knows when you are dealing with Gunny!
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Originally Posted by Capt CF View Post
Had a quick discussion with PJ today and here's the scoop. The Veloces come out of the box with no connectors on them (bare wires). So no matter how you decide to do the install you are either going to be mating them to Rizoma connectors, cutting off the stock connectors and mating them to those or directly connecting them to the wires coming from the bike. The connectors that Lee mentions above (EE079H) do match the stock connectors on the bike, but you need to attach them to the mirrors before you can plug them in. PJ has the connectors in stock and I am ordering a set so I'll know what's what this weekend when I do the install. I figure it makes sense to leave the stock connectors on the stock mirrors so I can switch back if I damage one of the Rizomas, decide I hate them, want to sell the stock mirrors, etc. etc.

I'll take pics and post them up so people will have a reference for the options with the wiring/connectors, etc.
That's absolutely correct, but one thing that CF missed...

The Veloce mirrors come with bare wire and *bullet* connector that can be crimped on so they can plug into the EE079's.
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Considering the price and that they are sold as specifically fitting the Panigale..then they should come with said connectors already installed...
This is ridiculous that they don't...
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Considering the price and that they are sold as specifically fitting the Panigale..then they should come with said connectors already installed...
This is ridiculous that they don't...
+1 - it's definitely annoying, but I'm tired of trying to hold the glass in the stocker still with my left hand and trying to figure out who is behind me.
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Originally Posted by Stw View Post
Considering the price and that they are sold as specifically fitting the Panigale..then they should come with said connectors already installed...
This is ridiculous that they don't...
They aren't sold as specifically fitting the Panigale - that's why the connectors aren't included, nor are the mounting adapters. These will fit any bike with fairing mounting mirrors for the most part. Imagine if you rode a CBR100RR, S100RR, etc and bought them and got them with Ducati Specific connectors.. then the dealers would be dealing with complaints about them having the "wrong" Connectors.
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Originally Posted by PJFZ1 View Post
They aren't sold as specifically fitting the Panigale - that's why the connectors aren't included, nor are the mounting adapters. These will fit any bike with fairing mounting mirrors for the most part. Imagine if you rode a CBR100RR, S100RR, etc and bought them and got them with Ducati Specific connectors.. then the dealers would be dealing with complaints about them having the "wrong" Connectors.
Well given the price I think Rizoma should damn well have them bike specific... How many different connectors are there???
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Originally Posted by Stw View Post
Well given the price I think Rizoma should damn well have them bike specific... How many different connectors are there???
Electrical connectors: 6 Brands (And Ducati is not consistent with electrical connectors).

Fairing Mounts: 40+
Bar mounts: 10+

If they made each mirror with specific mounts for individual bike, each mirror would end up with many parts numbers, and lower individual production numbers/higher prices.

That's why they make them the way the do.
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Originally Posted by PJFZ1 View Post
Electrical connectors: 6 Brands (And Ducati is not consistent with electrical connectors).

Fairing Mounts: 40+
Bar mounts: 10+

If they made each mirror with specific mounts for individual bike, each mirror would end up with many parts numbers, and lower individual production numbers/higher prices.

That's why they make them the way the do.
Well given that I guess it makes sense..but If I bought these and had this issue I would be disappointed...Shouldn't be up to the customer to chase around for parts to make these fit...
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