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Old Oct 30th 2013, 08:19 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by elements018 View Post
I bought a track bike that came with bridgestone slicks, I'm not sure whether it was the tire being different size then a 200or not having the suspension dialed in, but the front end and the rear end were extremely twitchy that left me pretty slow
The Bridgestones have a severe profile they tip in different if your not used to it .
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Old Oct 30th 2013, 08:25 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by EvoL View Post
So not the PROs, ok. How long do yours last?
A guy who races in my series will use two sets all season on the Pros he really isn't that quick but no decent tyre should last that long .
You will be fine on the SC1 Sc2 combo . Fronts will last me a meeting the rears I will usually use 2.
Track days are a different story and if your pushing it too hard you will get decent life .
Use warmers and keep a eye on your pressures .
I will set the rear at 25 PS I for the rear bring it up to 28/29 hot off the track .
The front 31 Psi cold and up to 34 -36 hot off the track .
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Old Oct 30th 2013, 11:19 PM   #23
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I am running Dunlop 449's on my R. I dropped over 3 seconds/lap on them on the first day out using them, and I like the feel of them way better. Carcasses are stiffer, and seem to make the bike feel more controllable and precise. The most obvious difference is the more linear feel from the front end, i.e. it takes a little more doing to bring the bike down to lean, but there is less sensation of a transition to get to the side of the tire. The front geometry seems to just stay the same regardless of lean angle. I find them much more confidence inspiring, and at my level, confidence translates into much more extra speed than any hardware can.

Running single temp warmers. No problem putting a knee down on the warmup lap. I rode the crap out of the bike the whole day, ran more consistent lap times, and never scared myself once. I see no reason for anybody who is running dry track days not to run slicks for extra entertainment value.

I'm still wearing the rear badly, although it did not start to show until the last session when I was really hammering on the high-speed right hand exit. I need to play with the rear suspension some and see if I can make this better.
Have you adjusted your swing arm to cope with the additional grip of the Dunlops?
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Old Oct 31st 2013, 01:46 AM   #24
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Warmers are a must - much longer tire life and you can be riding 80-90% (of YOUR ability) on first lap, also eliminates a lot of tearing which you get with cold tires - one if the best investments you can make for the track

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Old Oct 31st 2013, 02:21 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by BusaDuc View Post
Warmers are a must - much longer tire life and you can be riding 80-90% (of YOUR ability) on first lap, also eliminates a lot of tearing which you get with cold tires - one if the best investments you can make for the track

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Really what makes it cool is that with warmers is that at the end of the day its like getting an extra session when you count up all the warm up laps you won't have to do without tire warmers
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Old Oct 31st 2013, 06:03 AM   #26
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Superbike or Superbike PROs?

Are they worth 20% more than the Dunlops? I would like to get more than 20 laps out of the slicks as well, which I hear is what the Pirellis provide.
Superbike. The Pro's are the track day tire and don't come in the 200/60 size. I've used both and prefer the superbike.

I get a lot more than 20 laps. On the Superbike SC2 slicks. I would say I'm getting an average of 2-3 track days for the rear and about 4 days for the front. Sometimes if its hot enough I'll change to the SC1 compound but that's usually only in July/August. Using the SC1 when its cold just means I have to change them quicker as they wear too fast.

I just got back from a 2 day event where I started with a fresh set front and rear. I'm going to use them for at least 1 more day. I'll post a pic later.

You have to get the right compound and tire pressure and watch the tire for signs of incorrect suspension setup. At the last track day I was walking around the pits and you cold see cold tears, low and high tire pressure as well as lots of rebound tears.

I set the pressures to be 33 front and 27 rear, hot off the warmers. Adjust as necessary based on surface temp.
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Superbike. The Pro's are the track day tire and don't come in the 200/60 size. I've used both and prefer the superbike.

I get a lot more than 20 laps. On the Superbike SC2 slicks. I would say I'm getting an average of 2-3 track days for the rear and about 4 days for the front. Sometimes if its hot enough I'll change to the SC1 compound but that's usually only in July/August. Using the SC1 when its cold just means I have to change them quicker as they wear too fast.

I just got back from a 2 day event where I started with a fresh set front and rear. I'm going to use them for at least 1 more day. I'll post a pic later.

You have to get the right compound and tire pressure and watch the tire for signs of incorrect suspension setup. At the last track day I was walking around the pits and you cold see cold tears, low and high tire pressure as well as lots of rebound tears.

I set the pressures to be 33 front and 27 rear, hot off the warmers. Adjust as necessary based on surface temp.
Have you used the new 125 & 200 Dunlop slicks?
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Old Oct 31st 2013, 09:01 AM   #28
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No. I've only used their street tires and did not like them.

I've used Bridgestone slicks and DOTs and Pirelli slicks and DOTs.

The Bridgestone slicks were nice but cost and availability pushed me the Pirelli direction. I also had more info available for setup on the Pirellis.
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Old Oct 31st 2013, 02:50 PM   #29
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No. I've only used their street tires and did not like them.

I've used Bridgestone slicks and DOTs and Pirelli slicks and DOTs.

The Bridgestone slicks were nice but cost and availability pushed me the Pirelli direction. I also had more info available for setup on the Pirellis.
Thanks veck, I bought the Pirellis. SC1 front and SC2 rear.
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Good deal on em Evol?
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