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Old Nov 5th 2013, 01:55 PM   #21
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I wish! I think it could be a collectable to some and hold a little more value than the standard S. It seemed that way for the 1098 Tri that I was looking for before the 1199 came along.
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Let me clear up the original question: NO
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I can't believe no one has picked up on the obvious yet. For the same money, the 1199R will hold its value better than the Tricolore.

In terms of a collectible, Mark is right, it will take many years before they could actually appreciate. The most expensive collector bikes (Brough Superiors) now are what - 100 years old? I don't think any performance motorcycle has ever turned into the 2-wheel equivalent of a Ferrari 250 Testarossa or Hemi Cuda. Take a cue from the Desmosedici. It was the greatest street-legal sportbike ever built and in recent threads most on here said to avoid it and go for an 1198R (which would get destroyed around a track by a base 1199 with Bayliss or Canepa onboard both bikes). Not to mention their used prices are nearly half of the MSRP, despite their low production numbers.

Face the fact that the 1199 is Ducati's worst commercial failure since the Terblanche days and the 999. That bike even won a couple SBK championships so it still has more cred than the 1199. Racing success has been critical to the brand since the 851, and this surely is the darkest period in their racing history. This will likely always reflect on this period of Ducati production bikes, especially the Superbike range.

Lastly, if you're buying depreciating assets and considering their quality as investments, you seriously need to read a Suzie Ormond book.
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Now you are breaking my heart Jeff !
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I can see JeffD's point.

I don't expect to make more money off my bike than I paid for in the future; if I were going to sell it.

It is nice to have a limited model though, weather you lose money on it or not.

I can see the R's being made in higher production then the Tri's.

Checked the price for a 2013 R today. 29,500 OTD in FL
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You guys are delusional if you think the tri is an appreciating asset!
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Old Nov 5th 2013, 04:15 PM   #28
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Originally Posted by Gunny Fitz View Post
Now you are breaking my heart Jeff !
Sorry Gunny! The truth hurts, and a paintjob does not a collectible make.
Originally Posted by Miami Tricolore View Post
Checked the price for a 2013 R today. 29,500 OTD in FL
OTD? Damn that's a good price. Includes a full Termi too? Someone explain the value of the paint job and "extras" included in the Tricolore again
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A Tri is a damn sexy bike. Miss my 1098 Tri, but it's not an appreciating asset. If that were the case 2004 ZX-10Rs would be the most expensive bike on the road today, because they are so "rare" now due to riders crashing them, frame failures, engine blowouts, etc. Last I checked they were less than 25% of original MSRP. Max.
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I can't believe no one has picked up on the obvious yet. For the same money, the 1199R will hold its value better than the Tricolore.

In terms of a collectible, Mark is right, it will take many years before they could actually appreciate. The most expensive collector bikes (Brough Superiors) now are what - 100 years old? I don't think any performance motorcycle has ever turned into the 2-wheel equivalent of a Ferrari 250 Testarossa or Hemi Cuda. Take a cue from the Desmosedici. It was the greatest street-legal sportbike ever built and in recent threads most on here said to avoid it and go for an 1198R (which would get destroyed around a track by a base 1199 with Bayliss or Canepa onboard both bikes). Not to mention their used prices are nearly half of the MSRP, despite their low production numbers.

Face the fact that the 1199 is Ducati's worst commercial failure since the Terblanche days and the 999. That bike even won a couple SBK championships so it still has more cred than the 1199. Racing success has been critical to the brand since the 851, and this surely is the darkest period in their racing history. This will likely always reflect on this period of Ducati production bikes, especially the Superbike range.

Lastly, if you're buying depreciating assets and considering their quality as investments, you seriously need to read a Suzie Ormond book.
Well with that said I guess I should sell mine now and Ducati better pull out of WSBK after one year with the 1199... I don't know the sales figures but did any other model sell as well for Ducati in the first year? I read that the Panigale sales were one of the best ever for Ducati so how could it be a commercial failure?
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