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Old Dec 22nd 2013, 05:38 AM   #1
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'14 1199 R (1st ride) vs '12 Factory RSV4

First I would like to say thank you to Sebastian @ Melillimoto for my '14 1199 R.
Took it for a first/short break-in ride this morning, as I'm waiting to meet up with EVO-L to install BSTs and carbon rotors.

After trading my '12 1199 tri for two RSV4s, one '12 Factory and a trackbike w/Ohlins 30 mil and ttx, I can say I haven't been happier and more excited to get off a bike. I'm very happy to have returned to the brand after becoming frustrated with the purchase of my Tri. My 1199 Tricolore (being my first Ducati) and reading all the negative statements said about the bike, I just felt was the "norm"/take it or leave it. After moving to the RSV4 factory and putting some miles on it, it didn't compare to the experience of the 1199. That experience is amplified on the R. The bike is just telepathic and I feel more connected with the bike than the RSV4. Yes, the rsv4 has more linear power, but I feel for sure I'm faster on the 1199. The gearing and current mapping make the bike feel night and day to what I can recall about my '12 Tricolore, had no issues with heat, and felt like better/ proper body position feels like a second skin.

It'll be nice when I don't have to think about "proper break-in" for sure, but that's all I have for now. Happy Holidays everyone!!!
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Old Dec 22nd 2013, 05:42 AM   #2
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welcome back to the fold !
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Old Dec 22nd 2013, 05:43 AM   #3
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What was your negative "experiences" with the Tri that you now believe has been alleviated with an "R", just the gearing and mapping ?
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Old Dec 22nd 2013, 05:51 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by Prince Albert View Post
What was your negative "experiences" with the Tri that you now believe has been alleviated with an "R", just the gearing and mapping ?
Yes, I felt like it was always hunting or lurching when left to maintain a constant speed, no matter what rpm range I used, felt like mild/ intermittent versions of 1st gear. The "R" feels much smoother and more fun when rolling on than what I remember, but that just maybe in my head. The "R" feels awesome in its regard to the RSV4 when rolling on
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Old Dec 22nd 2013, 05:58 AM   #5
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Fair enough, but i think some of those problems can be attenuated on any 1199 to get to a closer "R" responsiveness ..
Nonetheless, congrats and welcome back
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Old Dec 22nd 2013, 06:14 AM   #6
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Absolutely. I don't feel that it's the R vs the Tri that makes the difference, but with the gearing and current map makes it a better bike for me coming off the RSV4
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Congrats on the bike, Ducatiph1, and thank you for the great write up. The gearing and mapping are more than likely the significant contributors to the difference you feel between the Tri and R. I actually thought the stock base/S gearing was fine during the first couple thousand miles I had it on the bike, but eventually decided to try the 41T rear more out of curiosity than anything else and was fairly impressed with how much of a difference it made.

After test riding an RSV4, it seemed to me it was noticeably lacking both in power and braking performance compared to the Panigale. Is this consistent with your experience?
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'14 1199 R (1st ride) vs '12 Factory RSV4

Originally Posted by Ducatiph1 View Post
Yes, I felt like it was always hunting or lurching when left to maintain a constant speed, no matter what rpm range I used, felt like mild/ intermittent versions of 1st gear. The "R" feels much smoother and more fun when rolling on than what I remember, but that just maybe in my head. The "R" feels awesome in its regard to the RSV4 when rolling on

Could it be the exhaust valve?
My S did that, then I disconnected the exhaust valve and it calmed the bucking horse muchly.
But, then again, Tri comes with Termies, don't they? Or just slipons?

And, uh, this crippled man passed RSV4 APRC round the outside on his first panigale trackday. That is a testament on Ducati's ride experience
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