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Old Oct 7th 2014, 07:16 PM   #1
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Superleggera wheelie control on the 1199

So I was wondering. The Superleggera has multi stage wheelie control as most people know. Do you think we'll be able to adapt the 2012-2014 1199's with this feature either by swapping in an ECU module or maybe a software update? OR do you think perhaps the new 1199/1299 will include wheelie control and maybe retrofit out bikes with it?

I think the wheelie control uses the front wheel speed sensors which our bikes already have, wouldn't it be a module that measures this sensors output and retards timing, fuel, throttle or whatever it does to slightly lower power to bring the front wheel down.

The reason I ask is the BMW HP4 has DDS (Dynamic Dampening Suspension) and you could buy a kit to retrofit your s1000rr from BMW. Was hoping Ducati would do something similar.

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Old Oct 7th 2014, 09:48 PM   #2
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SL uses a totally different ECU. Wouldn't be a simple upgrade. With enough money you can make anything happen though.
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Old Oct 8th 2014, 03:48 AM   #3
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When I first opened the throttle on the Pani, I was amazed at how little the TC reduces wheeling... In my previous TC equipped liter bikes, the TC would work as some type of anti-wheelie control because ti would notice the minute differences between front and rear wheel speed... Even my Diavel will pretty much prevent wheelies when the TC is set at 1...

What sensors/data is the Pani interpreting to determine the difference between a wheelie and wheelspin?
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Old Oct 8th 2014, 03:51 AM   #4
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As of now there is no active wheelie control on the 1199, if
They are prevented, that's because of the traction control.

Just as a reminder, not that one flips their bike....
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Old Oct 8th 2014, 08:43 AM   #5
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I have a mobile app wheelie control. Works just fine with the Pani. It's called "Wrist".
You should get it.
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Originally Posted by nvetro View Post
So I was wondering. The Superleggera has multi stage wheelie control as most people know. Do you think we'll be able to adapt the 2012-2014 1199's with this feature either by swapping in an ECU module or maybe a software update? OR do you think perhaps the new 1199/1299 will include wheelie control and maybe retrofit out bikes with it?

I think the wheelie control uses the front wheel speed sensors which our bikes already have, wouldn't it be a module that measures this sensors output and retards timing, fuel, throttle or whatever it does to slightly lower power to bring the front wheel down.

The reason I ask is the BMW HP4 has DDS (Dynamic Dampening Suspension) and you could buy a kit to retrofit your s1000rr from BMW. Was hoping Ducati would do something similar.

Thoughts?
No, different ECU, different sensors, different wiring harness, not compatible with the other Panigale models.
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Old Oct 8th 2014, 01:48 PM   #7
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Old Oct 8th 2014, 04:13 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Charliem90 View Post
I have a mobile app wheelie control. Works just fine with the Pani. It's called "Wrist".
You should get it.
Charlie - I added a different but related aftermarket system that does the same thing, you can Google it: "Rear Brake"
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Old Oct 8th 2014, 10:23 PM   #9
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Y? Y u no want 2 wheelie?
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Old Oct 9th 2014, 09:20 AM   #10
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All bikes have wheelie control, it's called rear brake, it does entail a certain level of skill, and coordination but anyone who has bought a bike of this level must be at an advanced skill level. All of these rider/driver aids that come with todays motorcycles and cars are diminishing the skill set of a whole generation, and taking away the human element of bike/car control.
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