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Mar 4th 2015, 12:41 PM
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#11 | Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2011 From: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 1,377 Thanks: 394 I Ride: Ducati 2010 SFS, Ducati 2012 1199 S |
Originally Posted by Charliem90 Tip (in addition to what Cloner sez).
Since you have the front end up and have taken one fork off....take the other fork off and do the seals on both. Won't take much more time and insures the seals are good (and the fork oil checked/freshened) on both.
I used to do the seals (when they needed it) on my off-road Husky (usd Showa) and learned it's a good idea to go ahead and do both. If one seal has gone bad, you can bet there's a good chance the other is getting dicey... |
Like any reputable bike shop, I always change the seals in the OHLINS when they are serviced.
One doesn't know when the seals will fail as they are prone to at any time on the OHLINS.
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Mar 4th 2015, 12:54 PM
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#12 | Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2012 From: Switzerland Posts: 1,852 Thanks: 1787 I Ride: 1199 SL, 1199S Tri, 1299S Anni, MV Agusta F4 750, M1200S, M696, Husaberg FS650e, Petronas FP1 |
I put ShockSox on all my bikes, works great, looks good and makes the seals hold longer. Berm Motorsports | Shock Sox | Ten Second Removable Fork Seal Protector ? berm-shock-sox |
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Mar 4th 2015, 02:44 PM
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#13 | Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2011 From: Round the World on an 1199 Posts: 2,084 Thanks: 2249 |
I got 20K+ miles on my bike before a fork seal went (which included a lot of trails, dust, ice, rocks, rain, etc.). Other one was still fine at 30K miles. About average from my experience with other bikes. ShockSox is a great idea, though, and a lot less expensive then the $225 to replace.
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Mar 4th 2015, 03:37 PM
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#14 | Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2012 From: Varese (Italy) Posts: 357 Thanks: 94 I Ride: Panigale S-ABS | Fork seal
Originally Posted by AntiHero I got 20K+ miles on my bike before a fork seal went (which included a lot of trails, dust, ice, rocks, rain, etc.). Other one was still fine at 30K miles. About average from my experience with other bikes. ShockSox is a great idea, though, and a lot less expensive then the $225 to replace. |
By any chance do you have the seal part #? Where did you get them from?
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Mar 4th 2015, 03:39 PM
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#15 | Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2012 From: Varese (Italy) Posts: 357 Thanks: 94 I Ride: Panigale S-ABS |
[QUOTE=Marmoot;195273]Yep. Just replaced the left one last week, and going to replace the right one this week.
The right one was only residual. But the left one was up to the point where the oil would seep out and drip onto the floor overnight before I had the chance to replace it.
While replacing it, I couldn't believe how black the oil was too. I guess all those track abuse really took the life out of the fluid. After replaced, the response was a lot better, one can notice how much better the fork damping actually is now (but you can't notice how bad it was before).
Mine is 2012 1199s too.[/
By any chance do you have the seal part #? Where did you get them from?
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Mar 5th 2015, 01:33 AM
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#16 | Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2013 From: Lawrenceville, GA Posts: 1,069 Thanks: 569 I Ride: 1199 Panigale/Triumph Speed Triple R |
Originally Posted by Scorpio66 By any chance do you have the seal part #? Where did you get them from?
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Parts fiche shows them as PN 349.2.131.1A "Seal Kit" and lists qty as 2 (1 for each fork I would assume).
Parts look-up reference DesmoDuck Part Fiche
(valuable online parts reference, btw).
You can probably get it from Ducati Omaha throught their on-line ordering system.
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Mar 5th 2015, 08:25 AM
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#17 | Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2012 From: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 495 Thanks: 197 I Ride: '12 Ducati 1199 Panigale, '04 KTM 450 EXC, '67 Aermacchi/HD 250/CRTT, '64 Ducati 250, '08 Ninja 250 |
Call Dan at Kyle Racing and he has them on the shelf in a kit with dust seals for less than Ducati charge for just fork seals. He also keeps Ohlins oil, so get a litre of that, too. Dan is the largest Ohlins distributor in the States (world?), so he's always a good resource for Ohlins bits and tools. He'll probably already know it for Panigale, but it's best if you have the number stamped on the inside of the lower fork boss available for reference (FGXXX).
Like Charlie said, always replace fork seals in pairs (it takes almost no additional real time since one leg is already off) and always use Ohlins oil...though it's close to 5 wt if you're in a real pinch. And like Brad said, if you're in there for any reason always reassemble with new seals, regardless of brand of fork.
I don't know what the deal is, but Ohlins forks seem to lose seals more quickly than other brands. Maybe they use a larger clearance to reduce stiction? That said, they're also easier to service than Showa or Kayaba, so it call comes out in the wash!
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Mar 5th 2015, 09:44 AM
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#18 | Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2012 From: Varese (Italy) Posts: 357 Thanks: 94 I Ride: Panigale S-ABS |
Originally Posted by Cloner Call Dan at Kyle Racing and he has them on the shelf in a kit with dust seals for less than Ducati charge for just fork seals. He also keeps Ohlins oil, so get a litre of that, too. Dan is the largest Ohlins distributor in the States (world?), so he's always a good resource for Ohlins bits and tools. He'll probably already know it for Panigale, but it's best if you have the number stamped on the inside of the lower fork boss available for reference (FGXXX).
Like Charlie said, always replace fork seals in pairs (it takes almost no additional real time since one leg is already off) and always use Ohlins oil...though it's close to 5 wt if you're in a real pinch. And like Brad said, if you're in there for any reason always reassemble with new seals, regardless of brand of fork.
I don't know what the deal is, but Ohlins forks seem to lose seals more quickly than other brands. Maybe they use a larger clearance to reduce stiction? That said, they're also easier to service than Showa or Kayaba, so it call comes out in the wash! |
Thanks Cloner, they have the seals in stock and cost half the genuine Ducati seal, $60 vs $123! I will get them in order and have somebody to replace for me.
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Mar 5th 2015, 10:26 AM
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#19 | Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2012 From: Florida Posts: 1,505 Thanks: 1111 I Ride: 1199 |
Just left Cycle Pro and pulled my bike out of the trailer to get some things done for next weeks race. We were looking at tire wear and noticed the forks were leaking. Not bad, but leaking. Good thing Yaman had a fork seal kit lying around.
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Mar 5th 2015, 08:45 PM
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#20 | Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2012 From: Varese (Italy) Posts: 357 Thanks: 94 I Ride: Panigale S-ABS |
Does anybody know how to take the forks off? I can get easily to the point where I remove the wheel, the fender but I've never remove a panigale fork.
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