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Old May 14th 2015, 12:50 PM   #31
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Just saw an OEM assembly for $280 new, and a clutch kit is $309, weird...
Yeah, I screwed up.. That clutch was used..
Looks like a TSS might be a good way to go..

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Old May 14th 2015, 02:21 PM   #32
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Hot off the presses from Randy @ Bellissimoto
Corey,

TSS is the company that makes Yoyodyne's clutches and to quote Randy "its nothing you want in your bike" Kind of a "get what you pay for" scenario (I'm not knocking their other clutches, they were decent, but not the best since they are copies of the STM, which was not the best either especially with all the advancements in the last several years like the EVR CTS01 and CNC Racing's Mastertech).

We offer the EVR Slipper which incidentally is the slipper clutch used by all the WSBK teams and the TPL team here in the states that use the 1199/1299:
BellissiMoto – EVR Slipper Clutch, EVR Clutches, Covers, and more!
It is more expensive, but its worth the cost. besides, we would give you a discount anyway on it.


If you want to have a dry slipper, (which I TOTALLY get and would want as well) There is always the STM dry clutch conversion kit: BellissiMoto - STM Dry Clutch Conversion Kit for Ducati

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Old May 14th 2015, 02:25 PM   #33
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Spend the money on coaching instead . There is no need to replace the clutch in the 1199 or the 1299 .
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Old May 14th 2015, 02:36 PM   #34
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Spend the money on coaching instead . There is no need to replace the clutch in the 1199 or the 1299 .

Without being impolite, I've been riding since I was 18, I'm 41 now, not that age has anything to do with anything.. I've done blipping/braking/and downshifting for years; I prefer a slipper to go quick as do others. Each to their own I suppose. Appreciate your concern tho. You really shouldnt assume I'm not familiar with a certain technique. A low thread count doesnt mean I cant ride..

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Old May 14th 2015, 02:39 PM   #35
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Your money feel free to waste it .My dad has been riding since he was 16 he is now 78 his still not very good .
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Old May 14th 2015, 02:53 PM   #36
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Originally Posted by Badlarry View Post
Without being impolite, I've been riding since I was 18, I'm 41 now, not that age has anything to do with anything.. I've done blipping/braking/and downshifting for years; I prefer a slipper to go quick as do others. Each to their own I suppose. Appreciate your concern tho. You really shouldnt assume I'm not familiar with a certain technique. A low thread count doesnt mean I cant ride..
I'm not saying you can't ride everyone needs coaching . Replace coaching with tyres if it makes you feel better .
I' not saying your Bad Larry just saying your going to be spending money for nothing .
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Old May 14th 2015, 02:55 PM   #37
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Originally Posted by Badlarry View Post
I tried it in #1 setting as that is how I recieved the bike and it was worse..
Sorry, after further review of the posts and manual I misspoke and though 1 was the least...I'll have to check mine when I get home to make sure I'm not going crazy
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Old May 14th 2015, 03:01 PM   #38
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I noticed a change in engine braking when I installed the tuneboy mapping, I believe the mapping holds the butterfly's open a bit for a small period of time when you close the throttle. I only really noticed this when I went back to stock mapping to get a reference and I'd settled on EBC 3 as my preferred setting.

in saying that this bike for me is one of the most stable bikes I've owned on downshift, so while not quite a blunt as Wilkson I agree with the principle...
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Ill start with the disclaimer that I did search for a little while before this thread.
After I got my bike home a few weeks ago and rode those 40 miles or so before the forks took a chit I set up the race mode parameters to my liking with EBC set to 3 or in lamens terms full slipper...



Did you only ride the bike 40 miles total ? track or street?
were you getting rear end chatter ?

I completely defend your right to modify your bike and also like dry clutches
I just can't find fault with the stock slippers on modern sport bikes on the track or on the street.
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I'm confused at the original premise in this thread where you say your "riding style" relies on a good slipper clutch? What exactly is your riding style that requires a lot of clutch slip? You mentioned corner entry several times, and typically the purpose of a slipper clutch is to stabilize the bike during braking, not for corner entry. If you're literally chattering your back end on corner entry with the stock 1199 slipper clutch then you have some definite issues to address, and putting a different clutch in will likely not fix it. The EBC system is designed to aid corner entry, by reducing engine braking during turn-in to allow a smoother entry with more corner entry speed. That is not what a slipper clutch does. If the slipper clutch was still slipping as you were turning in you would likely have downshifted 1 gear too many. Or you're waiting until the last second to downshift right as you turn into the corner, which is the opposite of what you should be doing. You would find it much easier to get your downshifting done ealier in the braking zone and then focus on corner entry, and you would definiltey not have your clutch slipping as you turn in. What am I missing?
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