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Old Jul 27th 2015, 07:10 AM   #1
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Water Wetter problem

Maybe someone here can help.

I poured some water wetter into the cooling system on my 14 1199.

The bike actually runs hotter at idle like 15 degrees hotter.

i know for fact that the fan still runs.

Any thoughts? did i over fill? is water wetter not a good idea to mix with the coolant? is there air in the system?

Additionally since it doesn't get below 10 deg, Fahrenheit here in Charleston SC.
any recommendations on a coolant compound to help with daily riding heat ?

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Old Jul 27th 2015, 07:28 AM   #2
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Impossible to judge temp at idle. Too many variables. WW shouldn't hurt regular coolant. It won't really effect operating temps much IME. My idle temp is always different. It's always climbing. So without a stop watch, how can I accurately judge Idle temps?

I avoid idle and any road slower than 55mph on the 1199. I have other bikes for that.

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Old Jul 27th 2015, 07:48 AM   #3
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I'm guessing you have a air pocket in the system somewhere. Open the rad cap let it sit over night. Shake the bike a bit see if any bubbles come out. Takes quite a while to properly fill the cooling system.
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Old Jul 27th 2015, 07:55 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by Charleston 1199 View Post
Maybe someone here can help.

I poured some water wetter into the cooling system on my 14 1199.

The bike actually runs hotter at idle like 15 degrees hotter.

i know for fact that the fan still runs.

Any thoughts? did i over fill? is water wetter not a good idea to mix with the coolant? is there air in the system?

Additionally since it doesn't get below 10 deg, Fahrenheit here in Charleston SC.
any recommendations on a coolant compound to help with daily riding heat ?

thank you

chris

Best coolant is water. That "coolant" you have in there now isn't for cooling - it's antifreeze along with some corrosion inhibitors. Glycol has less ability to absorb/hold heat (i.e. "cooling capacity") than water.

Water Wetter is a surfactant - designed to reduce air bubles/pockets and cavitation in heated water systems. Reduces water surface tension which increases cooling efficiency. Isopropyl Alcohol (i.e. rubbing alcohol) does the same thing. And it's cheap.

Use recommend "coolant" per manual, mix in 4 ounces of water wetter (or Isopropyl alcohol from your local CVS) and you're good to go.
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Old Jul 27th 2015, 08:00 AM   #5
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definitely an air pocket somewhere.

run the bike and let it cool off. the overpressure from running and the flow will move the fluid, where as cooling it down will generate a vacuum and suck in the required amount from the storage tank. next time you run it, you should be fine.
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Old Jul 27th 2015, 10:07 AM   #6
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Thank you.
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Old Jul 27th 2015, 02:26 PM   #7
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+1 Like they all said above!

Never been a fan of that stuff myself, but thats just me.
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Old Jul 27th 2015, 05:32 PM   #8
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I just flush the system a few times before replacing the coolant... Although I just run straight distilled water for track purposes, I haven't noticed my temp vary much, even if I'm riding in the street, which lately has been 95f+ with humidity here in mid-west
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Old Jul 28th 2015, 06:37 AM   #9
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well last night i did open the coolant valve to let out air.
then rode it.
it was 84 last night (cold in Charleston) and there was a small difference but it is still worse then stock. I will try again tonight to let more air out. what a pain.

it was stupid to begin with i shouldn't have added it.
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Old Jul 28th 2015, 06:59 AM   #10
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Cool Daily Riding?

Originally Posted by Charleston 1199 View Post
well last night i did open the coolant valve to let out air.
then rode it.
it was 84 last night (cold in Charleston) and there was a small difference but it is still worse then stock. I will try again tonight to let more air out. what a pain.

it was stupid to begin with i shouldn't have added it.
In your initial post you said you were seeking ideas on "daily riding" help with heat. Does that mean you dont track or race your bike at all?

If not, there are some controversial threads here on this- but for 10 years now (maybe less) I have used Engine Ice in every one of my bikes (prior to it being disallowed in CCS) and IMHO (hence why i said controversial) to me it works like a charm and does what its supposed to do! Granted, you will not obtain a SERIOUS loss of heat but it worked out pretty damn good on my 1199s when it came to riding heat- not sitting in traffic heat, so that to me is worth a try if you are not getting the best results out of WW (which to me is useless unless you track the bike) IN MY OPINION EVERYONE!! - Guess one should preface everything they say around here these days since people go off the deep end sometimes about putting down statements without it

Hit me up via PM if you wanna chat some more on this, or anything else you may be looking for connections on my friend! Just being polite to the rest of group thats all.
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