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Old Sep 3rd 2017, 07:05 AM   #31
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I bought a new bike that was a year old. I didn't give it a thought and thought the breaks were strong. Two years later my lever was going to the bar and it was really bad. After a complete front, rear, and mc flush, voila! The brake was amazingly strong, and it hit me, I realized that they were mushy when I bought it.

Get if flushed, if it is still mushy you have a deeper problem. As Speedy said, the breaks on a 1299 are not weak.
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Old Sep 3rd 2017, 01:35 PM   #32
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Originally Posted by speedy14 View Post
My thoughts are that your dealer is full of Sh-T!!
They are just trying to avoid any issues from a warranty perspective if it is still relatively new. A new 1299 does NOT have mushy brakes! Period!
Unless it is one of the very few that actually had a recall on the master cylinder.. (Those people were contacted by Ducati and had theirs fixed free.)
My guess is that if your brakes were good before then it just needs some servicing and an change of fluid...

Flush and then bleed the entire system.. Bleed it from the calipers and the master cylinder.. Mine recently got mushy also and I replaced the fluid and bled the lines and it is back to the way it should be. *( You have to bleed all of them several times).. Tip.. I always tap on the master cylinder and lines to get them to vibrate a little and it helps to make the trapped air bubbles float to the caliper or master cylinder so I can bleed out the very last air bubble..
I bleed mine manually and do NOT use a MityVac etc.because if you apply much pressure ie; suction, it will sometimes bleed from around the threads of the bleeder valve.. (To stop this you can put some teflon tape on the threads of the bleeder valves but that involves opening up the system and then you REALLY have to spend time to get it flushed again..)

* Unfortunately from what I have been told, the ABS pump cannot be completely flushed.. I asked the mechanic at my dealer and he stated that even the dealers do not have the equipment it takes to internally open the valving in the pump to flush it out...

A good bleeding with new fluid goes a long way... **If you intend to track it then use a racing grade brake fluid.. I use Motul 600 high temp fluid..It is more expensive but this is a very expensive bike and worth it.. Especially if you are coming down from 140mph and braking hard before heading into a 45 mph turn (and you don't want the brake lever to come back to the grip) or fade due to a lot of heat build up..
I use the Motul 600 too. I change fluid after a track day. There is also a Motul RBF 660 which has a slightly higher Dry boiling point if you are tracking.
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Old Sep 3rd 2017, 02:12 PM   #33
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Unless I am mistaken, some of the dealers I have spoken to, have the right gear to electronically operate the internal valves of the ABS unit to bleed the system properly if that is what is required, though I have stripped the ABS system down on both my 1199 and 1299 and bled both without a problem using conventional methods.
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Old Aug 21st 2018, 02:50 AM   #34
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There is no special Ducati software to bleed the 1199 ABS. Just simple mechanical bleeding as usual.
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