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Old Jul 28th 2017, 09:30 AM   #1
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Tuneboy cruise, QS, blipper and iPhone app lessons learnt

Hi Guys,

I have installed the tuneboy tune (V6), cruise, quick shifter and modified Aux switch for the cruise control (found on the 1299) on my 1199S. I also have the iPhone app working. Here are some answers to some questions I've noticed on various tuneboy threads;

Aux button use for cruise control
This is the +/- button found standard on the 1299 but absent on the 1199. This needs to be modified for use with the cruise control by adding a resistor and some wiring changes and then needs to be connected to the front O2 sensor. It will not work as standard on the 1299 as far as I know (could be wrong about this). I purchased this switch (Domino brand) from Wayne which he modified for me so it came with the right wiring and connector. Here is an excerpt of an email from Wayne explaining the modification required;

The pins on the Ducati O2 sensor plug are numbered 1,2,3,4
1 = signal.
2 = ground
3 = 12v

My adapter loom has a 10k and 2.4k resistor (from JayCar electronics).
The buttons from Domino have brown, green and white wires.
Brown is common to both buttons, this goes to pin 1 (signal)
White goes to pin 2 (ground), pin 2 is also connected to one side of the 2.4k resistor.
green connects to the other side of the 2.4k resistor, this side or the resistor also connects to one side of the 10k resistor.
The other side of the 10k resistor connects to pin 3 (12v)

The resistors act as a voltage divider so the point between the two resistors is about 2.7v
When the nudge up button is pushed it connects the signal wire to the 2.7v, when the nudge down is pushed it connects the signal to ground.

iPhone app
You will need to provide the UDID number of your phone to Wayne as his app has not yet been uploaded to the app store so he is manually enabling test users. You need to connect your iPhone to your PC and get the UDID number. Also I found that to get the app to communicate with the ECU, the Innovate device needs to be connected and the bike switched on before you see any response from the app itself. This threw me initially as I expected some connection information when I selected the tuneboy wifi network and I did not see the Wifi symbol showing at the top status line on the phone, it still showed the LTE signal status even though its connected via WiFi so I thought it wasn't connecting properly.

Quickshifter/blipper
Appear to be working correctly but could be improved with some tweaking. Sometimes the upshifts in the lower gears at mid revs is a bit jerky but similar to what I was experiencing with the standard QS. Sometimes its smooth. The blipper is working well and I am finding the downshift pressure a little hard but will try readjusting this in the software. Also it is not necessary to re-download the tune map again when enabling the QS or adjusting the Cruise options. You just need to go to the config page (after the mitsubishi program has read the map from the ECU), make the selections and exit the page. The default setting Wayne advised I set up the QS initially at were;

QS kill time - 5mm from the left
QS pressure - kill just to the right of the mark shown on the slider
Blip pressure - blip pressure slide just to the left of the mark

I will try increasing the QS kill time to see if it will reduce the jerkiness in the lower gears but I'm not sure this is correct (waiting on a response from Wayne).

Cruise control options
I selected the option 'nudge buttons with resume function' which is found on the config page of the mitsubishi program. This option enables the down button on the Aux switch to act as a resume feature, similar to a car cruise control. Also note the +ve button now replaces the cruise control set function that the start button used to perform. Pressing the start button only enables cruise control when this option is selected.

Regards,

Yoshi
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Originally Posted by tteitei View Post
Hi Guys,

I have installed the tuneboy tune (V6), cruise, quick shifter and modified Aux switch for the cruise control (found on the 1299) on my 1199S. I also have the iPhone app working. Here are some answers to some questions I've noticed on various tuneboy threads;

Aux button use for cruise control
This is the +/- button found standard on the 1299 but absent on the 1199. This needs to be modified for use with the cruise control by adding a resistor and some wiring changes and then needs to be connected to the front O2 sensor. It will not work as standard on the 1299 as far as I know (could be wrong about this). I purchased this switch (Domino brand) from Wayne which he modified for me so it came with the right wiring and connector. Here is an excerpt of an email from Wayne explaining the modification required;

The pins on the Ducati O2 sensor plug are numbered 1,2,3,4
1 = signal.
2 = ground
3 = 12v

My adapter loom has a 10k and 2.4k resistor (from JayCar electronics).
The buttons from Domino have brown, green and white wires.
Brown is common to both buttons, this goes to pin 1 (signal)
White goes to pin 2 (ground), pin 2 is also connected to one side of the 2.4k resistor.
green connects to the other side of the 2.4k resistor, this side or the resistor also connects to one side of the 10k resistor.
The other side of the 10k resistor connects to pin 3 (12v)

The resistors act as a voltage divider so the point between the two resistors is about 2.7v
When the nudge up button is pushed it connects the signal wire to the 2.7v, when the nudge down is pushed it connects the signal to ground.

iPhone app
You will need to provide the UDID number of your phone to Wayne as his app has not yet been uploaded to the app store so he is manually enabling test users. You need to connect your iPhone to your PC and get the UDID number. Also I found that to get the app to communicate with the ECU, the Innovate device needs to be connected and the bike switched on before you see any response from the app itself. This threw me initially as I expected some connection information when I selected the tuneboy wifi network and I did not see the Wifi symbol showing at the top status line on the phone, it still showed the LTE signal status even though its connected via WiFi so I thought it wasn't connecting properly.

Quickshifter/blipper
Appear to be working correctly but could be improved with some tweaking. Sometimes the upshifts in the lower gears at mid revs is a bit jerky but similar to what I was experiencing with the standard QS. Sometimes its smooth. The blipper is working well and I am finding the downshift pressure a little hard but will try readjusting this in the software. Also it is not necessary to re-download the tune map again when enabling the QS or adjusting the Cruise options. You just need to go to the config page (after the mitsubishi program has read the map from the ECU), make the selections and exit the page. The default setting Wayne advised I set up the QS initially at were;

QS kill time - 5mm from the left
QS pressure - kill just to the right of the mark shown on the slider
Blip pressure - blip pressure slide just to the left of the mark

I will try increasing the QS kill time to see if it will reduce the jerkiness in the lower gears but I'm not sure this is correct (waiting on a response from Wayne).

Cruise control options
I selected the option 'nudge buttons with resume function' which is found on the config page of the mitsubishi program. This option enables the down button on the Aux switch to act as a resume feature, similar to a car cruise control. Also note the +ve button now replaces the cruise control set function that the start button used to perform. Pressing the start button only enables cruise control when this option is selected.

Regards,

Yoshi


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Old Dec 13th 2017, 10:18 PM   #3
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do you have pictures of the aux switch wayne got for you? i cant seem to find a domino replacement that looks like factory. the cheapest i have found is the old part # 65140201B from AMS for 223.82 and the current part # 96580111A for 305.90.

I am getting through the details of what i need or want for the tuneboy. Currently talking to Wayne about the options and what my needs are. Maybe since you have pretty much the setup I want, you could help me out a little quicker and i dont bother Wayne so much.

Using the cruise with the aux buttons, and having the blipper, are you running dual widebands o2s and completely deleted the narrow band o2s?

are the o2s being read some how by the ecu since the aux buttons and strain gauge taking place of the ecu input of the o2s?
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Old Dec 14th 2017, 08:45 AM   #4
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do you have pictures of the aux switch wayne got for you? i cant seem to find a domino replacement that looks like factory. the cheapest i have found is the old part # 65140201B from AMS for 223.82 and the current part # 96580111A for 305.90.

I am getting through the details of what i need or want for the tuneboy. Currently talking to Wayne about the options and what my needs are. Maybe since you have pretty much the setup I want, you could help me out a little quicker and i dont bother Wayne so much.

Using the cruise with the aux buttons, and having the blipper, are you running dual widebands o2s and completely deleted the narrow band o2s?

are the o2s being read some how by the ecu since the aux buttons and strain gauge taking place of the ecu input of the o2s?
Hi,

I am not using the wideband sensors and have eliminated the standard o2 sensors. Actually I don't know how you could use wideband sensors at the same time as both QS and CC as they use the sensor connectors to talk to the ECU.

As for the photo, the switch is exactly like the 1299 aux switch only the buttons are black not grey. Wayne bought a lot of these and I purchased one from him which came modified for use to connect to the o2 sensor connector.

Once you install both QS and CC, make sure you go through the process of 'sensing' the QS and CC inputs. There is a function in the Config menu which lets the ECU sets which device is connected to each of the o2 sensors otherwise the there is a 50% chance the ECU thinks the QS and CC is connected to the wrong o2 connector. Also if you reload the firmware for any reason, make sure you go through this process again.

Hope this helps.

Yoshi
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