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Old Mar 13th 2013, 08:49 AM   #1
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Dealer Refuses to Remove Charcoal Canister . . .

Emailed my dealer service dept. about agonizing HARD START issues and the numerous owners who've found remedy in removing the charcoal canister. I asked if:

1) Are they familiar with the issue?
2) Are you removing them for other 1199 owners?

The dealer responds saying:

"Of our 1199 customers this is the first I've heard of this. We would need to perform diagnostics and submit information to Ducati NA for advisement on repairs as we are not permitted to remove emissions equipment due to EPA regulations. We can set an appointment for the next nice day for you to bring the bike in for an inspection. If you have any further questions or would like to schedule the service appointment please feel free to reply by email or call at your convenience."

I am beside myself at this response.

Anyone?
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Old Mar 13th 2013, 08:51 AM   #2
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Legally they cannot remove anything related to EPA, or that might affect waranty. Mine said DNA told them they could not remove the block off plates either. I totally understand. There is no proof that helps anyway.
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Old Mar 13th 2013, 08:59 AM   #3
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What about the kinked vent hose under the gas tank ? Anyone find that to be an issue with their's ? I read it in another thread.
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Old Mar 13th 2013, 09:46 AM   #4
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-- i've had mine removed from the last few ducs i've owned...the dealer had no issue at all, in fact the tech recommended that i do it - they were having customers return with imploded tanks - a few aprilias and a few ducati - if the canister fills wiht fuel, you cannot start the bike, and i believe the vent hose gets involved, creating a vacuum that sucked the tank in - not fun

-- i haven't purchased a new one recently, so i am not sure if the game plan/rules have changed.....
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Old Mar 13th 2013, 09:57 AM   #5
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It's super easy to remove yourself.
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Old Mar 13th 2013, 10:08 AM   #6
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My dealer said DNA would not allow the removal of that epa crap but they did it anyway and that was the hard starting solution. It is easy to do yourself.
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Old Mar 13th 2013, 10:29 AM   #7
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check this thread:

http://ducati1199.com/mechanical-tec...-canister.html


had mine removed, not a problem ever since.

tell your dealer it is a customers wish to have it removed
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Old Mar 13th 2013, 11:14 AM   #8
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I certainly can't fault a dealer not wanting to do it.

I pulled mine chiefly because leaving the canister on my streetfighter resulted in the tank building up so much pressure caused tank to expand and cracked the paint.

They won't stay on mine any more.
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Old Mar 13th 2013, 11:58 AM   #9
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The problem is the Federal Government or EPA, it is a heafty fine if they are caught changing the system. Thank goodness that they will install Termi since removing cat. converters is also a no-no.
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v&h got hammered for selling pipes that aren't emissions compliant

Vance & Hines Fined $500,000 By California Air Resources Board. Who’s Next? at Cyril Huze Post



Originally Posted by Brickcues View Post
The problem is the Federal Government or EPA, it is a heafty fine if they are caught changing the system. Thank goodness that they will install Termi since removing cat. converters is also a no-no.
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