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Old Jul 10th 2019, 08:26 AM   #1
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Woolich Racing Tune and lag

New to the forum guys but not a new Ducati owner. Recently picked up a Panigale R (MY16) and I removed the exhaust flapper cable and motor from the bike....opened the flap up but didn't remove. I have a load of questions:

1. Has anyone used Woolich Racing Tuner and what were your thoughts? Did you go with the Widebands and is that necessary?

2. Has anyone gutted the Akrapovic Exhaust Race Baffles (Non-Race)?

3. Did your Panigale R have lag in power delivery and kick-in, to what would seem like normal, at 6.5k-8k RPM range?

4. Best mods you have done and don't regret.

Thank you very much fellow Duc Owners.
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Old Jul 10th 2019, 08:34 AM   #2
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Welcome to the board so yeah I am currently running a 16R as well as the Woolrich stuff great tuning platform and lots of support from them. I never gutted the stock exhaust just installed the Akro race full system. Got no lag or delivery in the power. The widebands are only needed if your going to be logging your own data and doing your own maps.


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New to the forum guys but not a new Ducati owner. Recently picked up a Panigale R (MY16) and I removed the exhaust flapper cable and motor from the bike....opened the flap up but didn't remove. I have a load of questions:

1. Has anyone used Woolich Racing Tuner and what were your thoughts? Did you go with the Widebands and is that necessary?

2. Has anyone gutted the Akrapovic Exhaust Race Baffles (Non-Race)?

3. Did your Panigale R have lag in power delivery and kick-in, to what would seem like normal, at 6.5k-8k RPM range?

4. Best mods you have done and don't regret.

Thank you very much fellow Duc Owners.
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Old Jul 10th 2019, 09:45 AM   #3
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I called my Akrapovic rep and he said I can't touch them....they have to be bought from Ducati...at a smooth $4k?!?!!?!!?! wtf....he said they come with the up map. I literally just want the cans...know anyone selling them?
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Old Jul 10th 2019, 09:47 AM   #4
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Welcome to the board so yeah I am currently running a 16R as well as the Woolrich stuff great tuning platform and lots of support from them. I never gutted the stock exhaust just installed the Akro race full system. Got no lag or delivery in the power. The widebands are only needed if your going to be logging your own data and doing your own maps.
Thank you for the information by the way, did you see an improvement with doing the Woolich Racing stuff? Were you experiencing some choppy and delayed power below 6k RPM....I feel it is due to me keeping that flapper wide open 24/7 and if I just disable that, o2 sensors, pair, and other items that this thing will spring to life with some added fuel percentage.
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Old Jul 10th 2019, 12:17 PM   #5
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The stock map on the bike is crap best thing you can do as a start is load one of the Woolrich maps off there forum I actually started that way and you don't need the wideband stuff installed. It will run way better then stock and smoothen all the choppiness out and run smoother.



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Thank you for the information by the way, did you see an improvement with doing the Woolich Racing stuff? Were you experiencing some choppy and delayed power below 6k RPM....I feel it is due to me keeping that flapper wide open 24/7 and if I just disable that, o2 sensors, pair, and other items that this thing will spring to life with some added fuel percentage.
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Old Jul 10th 2019, 02:27 PM   #6
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If you are looking at the Woolich setup without the wide band option, you are limited to the 1199 as the last time I looked, there was only one map for the Panigale on the shared format which was the 1199R. Additionally, you are confined to what is on that map which was laid down by whoever wrote it and posted it. Woolich does not provide modified maps direct. The Woolich platform without the wide band option allows you to do 4 things
1 Allows you to view maps
2 allows you to modify shift points
3 allows you to delete in the ECU the deceleration fuel cut, exhaust valve, pair sec/air and the EVAP valve. You can also diable the stock O2 sensors.
4 allows you to make changes to a map and reload it into your ECU provided you have a reference for the changes (dyno)

Without a dyno, you will not be doing any dynamic tuning with the Woolich without the wide bands so essentially without the wide bands its a software program to load a pre configured map, delete some pesky plugs and look at stuff. With the wide bands you can do logged, adaptive tuning to effortlessly build optimized maps to fit your riding style. Its pretty nice. I am on the 7th iteration of my initial base map which was a Bren map with some ignition mods.I still have a few more logged sessions to complete before the final map will be done based on the target values for the build. Just my 2 cents, if you want a shared (canned)map, there are a host of solutions. If you want to learn about tuning and want to optimize your platform, get the wide bands, learn the system and the nomenclature. You will have a much better platform when you are finished.
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Old Jul 13th 2019, 05:52 AM   #7
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Great info man. Talking to Anthony, he is telling me that it can't shut off the maintenance light!? With that being said, have you compared or used the Tuneboy setup? They run the mapping straight from the narrowband readouts and it can clear the maintenance light. Any insight on this would be great....I am literally seconds away from pulling the trigger on this. I have my fabricator/welder on staff building the Y Pipe and I am gutting the cans out...Literally creating the $4200 Race can setup for about $200.


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If you are looking at the Woolich setup without the wide band option, you are limited to the 1199 as the last time I looked, there was only one map for the Panigale on the shared format which was the 1199R. Additionally, you are confined to what is on that map which was laid down by whoever wrote it and posted it. Woolich does not provide modified maps direct. The Woolich platform without the wide band option allows you to do 4 things
1 Allows you to view maps
2 allows you to modify shift points
3 allows you to delete in the ECU the deceleration fuel cut, exhaust valve, pair sec/air and the EVAP valve. You can also diable the stock O2 sensors.
4 allows you to make changes to a map and reload it into your ECU provided you have a reference for the changes (dyno)

Without a dyno, you will not be doing any dynamic tuning with the Woolich without the wide bands so essentially without the wide bands its a software program to load a pre configured map, delete some pesky plugs and look at stuff. With the wide bands you can do logged, adaptive tuning to effortlessly build optimized maps to fit your riding style. Its pretty nice. I am on the 7th iteration of my initial base map which was a Bren map with some ignition mods.I still have a few more logged sessions to complete before the final map will be done based on the target values for the build. Just my 2 cents, if you want a shared (canned)map, there are a host of solutions. If you want to learn about tuning and want to optimize your platform, get the wide bands, learn the system and the nomenclature. You will have a much better platform when you are finished.
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Old Jul 13th 2019, 06:40 AM   #8
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I actually don’t know much of anything about tuning “hands on”. I am fairly well versed on how everything works, what it means and where things should be based on the data. Fortunately, there are some great guys including one on this board helping with the projects. Tuneboy. I know it and understand it but have zero experience with it. There are a few guys on this board who are a wealth of knowledge with regard to that platform. Maintenance codes. I do not believe Woolich addresses that area. I use the Bren box for that and prior to that, I used the Melco to do it.
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Old Jul 13th 2019, 07:01 AM   #9
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Awesome, thank you so much.
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Old Jul 13th 2019, 08:12 AM   #10
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I Ride: 2015 R, 1199 Tricolore, '12 MTS Pikes Peak
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