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Old Apr 15th 2012, 03:03 PM   #171
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By the time the Panigales arrive in the U.S. someone in the U.K will have logged over 1,000km (~600 miles) and had their first service. THEN, we'll know if this is all just blowing smoke : ) or a real smoking gun. lol.
I have nearly 400 miles on mine, saw a tiny bit of smoke this morning but nothing since them, but then it did only have 80 miles on it this morning.

It was a little low on oil at 80 miles, but when I checked it again towards the end of the day it hadn't used any more. Can't be certain yet, but it does look like oil consumption and smoke do drop as the miles build. Might get to 600 by the end of the week.
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Old Apr 15th 2012, 11:08 PM   #172
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I'm at 550 miles with first service this Friday. Yesterday was my longest ride so far, around 160 miles. On start up I experienced smoke for the first time. And when I say smoke I means lots of it. Took almost a minute to run clear. Temp was pretty low but it was a clear day with no rain etc. Around 8c when I set off.

I should also say I've had porsches do a similar thing and never resolved the issue. Specifically happened on my 997 cars and worse on the turbos. It was an intermittent issue that plagued them. Sometimes you could literally blanket a parking area with fog.....

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Old Apr 16th 2012, 03:02 AM   #173
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I should also say I've had porsches do a similar thing and never resolved the issue. Specifically happened on my 997 cars and worse on the turbos. It was an intermittent issue that plagued them. Sometimes you could literally blanket a parking area with fog.....
Thanks JayKay.

A fellow Porsche owner chimes in with the same reasonably common issue I previously mentioned

Only my Cayman was affected by this phenomenon, with 6 that were fine. It really didn't bother me, since it was an absolute belter ..... for a car
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Originally Posted by JayKay View Post
I'm at 550 miles with first service this Friday. Yesterday was my longest ride so far, around 160 miles. On start up I experienced smoke for the first time. And when I say smoke I means lots of it. Took almost a minute to run clear. Temp was pretty low but it was a clear day with no rain etc. Around 8c when I set off.

I should also say I've had porsches do a similar thing and never resolved the issue. Specifically happened on my 997 cars and worse on the turbos. It was an intermittent issue that plagued them. Sometimes you could literally blanket a parking area with fog.....
this post has me pretty close to canceling my bike...
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Old Apr 16th 2012, 08:19 AM   #176
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this post has me pretty close to canceling my bike...
I wouldnt take it quite that far. Happened again today exactly same amount of smoke for around a minute of running before it finally cleared. I'm going to talk at length to the dealers about it this friday when its in for the first service. I'll report back here.
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Old Apr 16th 2012, 08:21 AM   #177
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Thanks JayKay.

A fellow Porsche owner chimes in with the same reasonably common issue I previously mentioned

Only my Cayman was affected by this phenomenon, with 6 that were fine. It really didn't bother me, since it was an absolute belter ..... for a car
Its a very well known issue with 911s especially the later models. Lots of apparent causes but never a solution. Anyone that claims otherwise has been lucky. I've had 7 over the past 12 years and it effected 4 of them, the turbo more than the others though.
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Something to consider re the smoking. My Honda CBR 600RR 1st gen smoked on start up. Albeit not great billows of smoke ala the Panigale but it did smoke. Never had an engine issue.
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I posted this in another topic, but probably should have here. Especially now that people are mentioning Porsches that also smoke:

Ducati is well aware of the smoking issue and it's from the vacuum pump that creates the near zero pressure in the crankcase. This type of system is derived directly from the automotive world and eliminates pumping losses therefore creating HP. Ducati actually told the dealership service techs well before the bikes hit the dealerships that this is a normal effect of the vacuum system.

Many new cars smoke upon start up. I often wondered why this was but I never really worried much about it. But I'm talking about a 2007 MB S550, 2 Boxster Spyders, a Panamera S, and a BMW 750, and a 2012 991 Porsche 911...everyone of these cars is mine or in my family and I have first hand noticed the smoke upon cold start up. I haven't looked into the designs of each of these motors, but they're all fairly high performance and since this 1199 technology is derived from the automotive world, I'd bet this is the reason behind the smoking of the cars.

Back on point, Ducati is 100% aware of the smoke issue, has a reasonable explanation, and has declared it acceptable. It's just my 2 cents, but I do know for a fact that service techs have known this for at least 4 weeks because I've known it that long.
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Could this white smoke issue be caused by some kind of coating Ducati puts inside the exhaust to protect it from corrosion or could it be residue from the manufacturing process? I seem to remember some of my motorcycles doing this when they were brand new. Smelled nothing like unburnt fuel, burning oil, or burning coolant which are very easy to identify. I know my new FMF pipe on my XR smoked briefly.

If it's white smoke and doesn't smell like coolant...stop worrying and ride the damn thing. It will go away after a few miles.

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