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Old May 28th 2012, 01:18 PM   #11
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I was pleased 2 see this thread today.... I have a 1199 on order but we have just had a big bill fixing the roof on the house.

I can still stretch to get the 1199 but the wife said can i look at cheaper options...

So I took a 2012 - 848 Evo out but found it vibrated heaps.. apparently you can change the front tooth and it stops that. But I wonder how much.

Also I took out a 2007 - 1098s Tricolore out - 11,000 KM's, That seemed very smooth and fun.

What are the thoughts on these two bikes, my plan is to own it for a couple of years and then go for the new version of the 1199.

Cheers for any advise, im getting sleepless nights!!!

BTW, both of these bikes are the same price.

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Old May 28th 2012, 05:29 PM   #12
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So I loved my 1098 like no bodys business as well. The torque was awesome. However that being said. I pull up to a light and street race a simple GSXR 1000 and yank on the throttle at green and the bike wants to stand up where the gixxer builds up slowly and takes off futher down the rd. If I didn't gage my take off perfect this was a problem. I am changing my front procket one tooth to change the takeoff for the 1199 and it should be the perfect combination.
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Old May 28th 2012, 08:03 PM   #13
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times are changing and Ducati Engineers can not compete in the HP wars with s1000rr and zx10r if they did build the superquaddro engine. I test rode the Panigale and it is true that the 1098/1198 will trump it in the lower rev range but come 7,000rpm, the Panigale is way much faster and when the Panigale hits the 10,000rpm mark, it is just plain crazy!!

When I watched the FIM superstock. a year ago, I hate to see long straits in the track because this is where the zx10r and the s1000rr catches up with the 1098r and sometimes even overtake the beloved 1098 but this does not happen in this seasons superstock. the Panigale accelerates just as fast as the zx10r and s1000rr in the straits. Currently panigale is the number 1 bike in FIM superstock with 53 points, followed by bmw with 50, then another Panigale with 48 pts.

About the ergonomics, first of all, Ducati superbikes are not built as daily commuters. I can see that you Ride a Multi Strada and imho, that bike is a fantastic commuter bike. SO just ride the Multistrada when you have to ride around town.

One of the selling points of the Panigale is it is more "comfortable" than the 1098/1198, It is true. but it is still not as comfy as a standard bike like your Multi, or the monster or the Diavel.

Now if you do not see the Panigale as fun as th 1098, you may have valid points but you can not deny that the 1199 has advantages over the 1098 too. Such as it is lighter, it has 20+hp more, better electronics, and according to Troy Bayliss, Faster Lap times.
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Old May 29th 2012, 09:00 AM   #14
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Just a case of getting used to it, and realising it isn't like a traditional thumping v twin. Don't get me wrong, I love the bike and it handles much better than the 1098, it's just that the power delivery is so different I thought I would challenge that whilst it is undoubtly faster is it actually more fun...

Spoke to dealer today about changing the gearing. Seems I am the first to suggest to them that the front sprocket might do with a tooth off it. They are going to look into it and see if Ducati recommend anything. Apparently changing the gearing will mess with the traction control and electronics. In what way or to what extent I am not sure, I suppose its a case of try it and see.
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Old May 29th 2012, 09:39 AM   #15
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As a former 1098Tri & 1198 owner and current MV rider, I really appreciate the honest responses. I don't feel the need to change so soon - which is fine since the 1199's in such high demand right now.
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Old May 30th 2012, 08:00 AM   #16
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I joined this forum in November '11 with anticipation of buying a new 1199. For me this was big deal as I never buy new vehicles due to the loss of value as soon as it leaves the lot.

After much research, I bought the 1098R for the same price as a 1199S. I love the bike, it runs perfectly, titanium vales, sand cast ect. The bike is as light as the 1199, has a better powerband than the 1199, meaning a flat torque curve, and the only reason the 1199 has a higher HP rating is it rev's higher than the 1098R. Unless, you ride at redline the 1199 will feel underpowered.

Ergonomically, 1098R is more comfortable than my S4RS Monster and feels much safer at speed. With that said, you have to ride the 1098R with very light hands similar to riding a Thoroughbred. With light hands the bike is super stable and very fast - you can not muscle through curves, if you do be prepared to be punished.

The 1199 is the most beautiful bike Ducati has ever made but I think the 1098R/1198R is the best bike Ducati has ever made.
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Old May 30th 2012, 09:56 AM   #17
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I think more than a few will agree that the 1098 might be more fun. I think (don't have my bike yet) that for myself, having grown up on Japanese 600s, I'll prefer the 1199 powerband that's a slightly softer in the middle. My 1198 put the fear of god in me with it's powerband while leaned over. It was fun under certain conditions and I loved it to be sure, but I really missed being able roll on the throttle comfortably on my 600s at lean. Plus turn transitions I felt were heavy on the 1198, and the 1199 has corrected this to some degree from what I've read on here. I'm really looking to my first ride on the 1199.
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Old May 31st 2012, 12:55 AM   #18
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Definitely the 1098/1198 is an excellent bike, It won its debut race way back in 2007 and it has several wsbk championship trophies. But think of it this way, the 1199 is currently in demand and trying to find stock for the bike is as hard as finding a virgin in a strip club. If you want an 1098/1198, all you have to do is go to the dealers and you can get a good deal right away.

now if the 1199 get's this years FIM superstock trophy , then it's credentials as a race bike will increase dramatically. If it wins next years WSBK, that will be awesome!!
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Old May 31st 2012, 01:45 AM   #19
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Originally Posted by Tricolore View Post
I joined this forum in November '11 with anticipation of buying a new 1199. For me this was big deal as I never buy new vehicles due to the loss of value as soon as it leaves the lot.

After much research, I bought the 1098R for the same price as a 1199S. I love the bike, it runs perfectly, titanium vales, sand cast ect. The bike is as light as the 1199, has a better powerband than the 1199, meaning a flat torque curve, and the only reason the 1199 has a higher HP rating is it rev's higher than the 1098R. Unless, you ride at redline the 1199 will feel underpowered.

Ergonomically, 1098R is more comfortable than my S4RS Monster and feels much safer at speed. With that said, you have to ride the 1098R with very light hands similar to riding a Thoroughbred. With light hands the bike is super stable and very fast - you can not muscle through curves, if you do be prepared to be punished.

The 1199 is the most beautiful bike Ducati has ever made but I think the 1098R/1198R is the best bike Ducati has ever made.


I went the same route,.....ordered the 1199 and then bailed out when a tricked up 1098r bayliss came up at the same money,....

Funilly enough,the guy that I bought the bike off,...has bought an 1199s and said he regreted selling the bayliss,...in his words,..he missed the bottom end and the mid range grunt of the 1098r,...about the same top end he said,...but the bike has the corse cam kit in it.
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Old Mar 16th 2015, 11:26 AM   #20
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Panigale vs 1198

It seems to me that the panigale gets beat by 1198 on the straights at will on all the videos on YouTube.I'm thinking Ducati knows they gruff up with the panigale
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