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Old Mar 18th 2015, 09:31 AM   #1
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Great write-up on the 1299S

From CycleNews - no new info, just a nice writeup with lots of pics.

Cycle News - Cycle News 2015 Issue 10 March 10
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Old Mar 18th 2015, 10:14 AM   #2
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I really hope this bike lives up to all the accolades, it's been given. Of all the choices out there, the 1299 was the one that checked all the boxes for me, whereas the 1199 didn't do it for me, even after wanting to like it. I rode the 1199 at least 7 or 8 times, in the hopes it would somehow get better each time, but it didn't.

The 1299 seems to have fixed every single issue I had with the 1199, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I made the right choice.

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Felt the same way about the 1199, and instead bought an S1000RR. Can't wait for the 1299 though!
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Old Mar 18th 2015, 01:54 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by McLaren12C View Post
Felt the same way about the 1199, and instead bought an S1000RR. Can't wait for the 1299 though!
I already had the S1000RR and had a deposit down on a Tricolore that was at my friend's Ducati dealership and just couldn't live with the lack of low end and midrange.

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Old Mar 18th 2015, 03:00 PM   #5
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Well if the SL is anything to go by, the 1299's should be very good indeed. Although I'm still running it in. It feels totally different to the 1199 its supposed to be based on. The SL inspires a great deal confidence strangely enough. So I would expect the 1299's to carry this theme through.
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Originally Posted by 80shilling View Post
I already had the S1000RR and had a deposit down on a Tricolore that was at my friend's Ducati dealership and just couldn't live with the lack of low end and midrange.

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Power delivery can be deceiving. The 1199 carries a horsepower and torque advantage over the S1000RR throughout the low end and midrange, all while offering a 35 pound weight advantage. The BMW pulls ahead in the 11,000+ RPM range.

If I may, what exactly were you planning on doing with the Tricolore that would influence you to believe this much low and mid range power was unacceptable?
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+1about Duck41's question.

The way you say it 80shilling makes it seem as if there's a world of difference between the 1199 and 1299. "The 1199 just didn't do it for me even after 7 or 8 rides"

That's just a bunch of bull. The 1199 may not have the mid range straight out the box like the 1299 does or the low end torque but it certainly isn't that much of a difference to warrant that kind of a response as if it doesn't meet your standards. At least say somethin like "I sold my bmw around the time the 1299 was announced and decided to hold off for the latest n greatest since it has an improved midrange and low end torque". That would be acceptable. Nothing proper gearing and tuning can't fix.
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Originally Posted by 80shilling View Post
I really hope this bike lives up to all the accolades, it's been given. Of all the choices out there, the 1299 was the one that checked all the boxes for me, whereas the 1199 didn't do it for me, even after wanting to like it. I rode the 1199 at least 7 or 8 times, in the hopes it would somehow get better each time, but it didn't.

The 1299 seems to have fixed every single issue I had with the 1199, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I made the right choice.

Cheers.

I think its great that you are getting a 1299. If I was buying now I would not buy a cheap runout 1199 I would buy the 1299.

But having said that, I do not think it will be that much of a difference and if you thought the 1199 just did not do it for you then you may be disappointed with a 1299. It will not be that much different.

I reckon if you rode my 1199S that has increased torque in the midrange from an Akra and a custom TB tune, plus a 41 tooth rear and lighter drive chain you would not find it so bad.
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For me, if I could afford it, (which is a euphemism for saying my wife wouldn't kill me), I'd still buy an R over the 1299S. I think the 1299 is awesome but I would secretly want an apple to Apple comparison. Which means a Panigale R vs. R1M, vs. RSV4RF, vs. HP4 or better. The 1299 wouldn't be allowed to compete on a track together which IMHO is the only place these bikes belong.

The 1299 is like a German Shepard, the R is the wolf.
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For me, if I could afford it, (which is a euphemism for saying my wife wouldn't kill me), I'd still buy an R over the 1299S. I think the 1299 is awesome but I would secretly want an apple to Apple comparison. Which means a Panigale R vs. R1M, vs. RSV4RF, vs. HP4 or better. The 1299 wouldn't be allowed to compete on a track together which IMHO is the only place these bikes belong.

The 1299 is like a German Shepard, the R is the wolf.
Thamer, the 1299 can compete in 5 different Wera classes. A Superbike and superstock, HW twins SB and SS and one more I beleive. Those classes are oem displacement. I agree though, I want the R.
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