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Old Apr 22nd 2015, 10:28 AM   #11
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Is there gains to be found by remapping the 1299? I'd say 205 hp on a 1.3l is pretty good as it is?
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Old Apr 22nd 2015, 11:23 AM   #12
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The modifications to the overall shape look fine, but I'm not a fan of the prominent black plastic strip.
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Old Apr 22nd 2015, 12:08 PM   #13
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Definitely ugly compared to the 2012-2014.... That wide bare piece of black plastic looks hideous. When I saw the 2015 S at the NYC Show I was shocked thats how the bike was going to look. The black exposed subframe is gross too IMO.
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Old Apr 22nd 2015, 02:44 PM   #14
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Definitely ugly compared to the 2012-2014.... That wide bare piece of black plastic looks hideous. When I saw the 2015 S at the NYC Show I was shocked thats how the bike was going to look. The black exposed subframe is gross too IMO.
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Old Apr 22nd 2015, 03:04 PM   #15
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Only tail mod I would want is the one I'd want for my 1199; one without the useless front to back holes in it that you could actually put something in. Still missing the big man-purse on the arse of my RC51; that thing was... useful!
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Old Apr 23rd 2015, 12:01 AM   #16
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This was one of my dislikes re: the new model
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Old Apr 23rd 2015, 12:13 AM   #17
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Must agree, that while I prefer the general aesthetics of the tail piece, it is impractical beyond all belief. As bikes in this price range, they will obviously be in more threat of theft.
The lack of ability to carry anything but the most token gesture disc locks is shite.

If you remove the seat pad, there is quite a lot of space inside the panels, but no substance to take any weight or hard objects rattling about. It may be possible to squeeze a split set of waterproofs (top and pants) between the two sides for emergencies.
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Old Apr 23rd 2015, 12:18 AM   #18
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Is there gains to be found by remapping the 1299? I'd say 205 hp on a 1.3l is pretty good as it is?
Absolutely.

The maps provided by the OEM and even the "base" maps you can download from Dynojet for your bike/exhaust always leave a lot to be desired. There is always power to be had from a true dyno tune (by a good, reputable tuner).

But it isn't just about peak power, it is about making the bike rideable. Livengood, who is my engine builder/tuner (who also comes to all my races and handles my pit), probably spends 60-70% of his tuning time/effort in the area of 0-25% throttle. How a bike responds when the throttle is first opened, and how smooth/controllable/predictable it is in the first 25% of throttle application is HUGELY important when it comes to driving off apex.

On my R6 Superbike, he actually reduced the power a little bit from 0-25% throttle because that is when im at full lean angle coming off apex. Too much power there and the wheel just spins/slides...which affects my trap speeds at the end of the straights.

On Liter bikes, he can usually pick up 8-12hp simply from tuning and most importantly, the power curve will be very linear and predictable.

Not to mention I will have maps built for U4.4 and MR12, and he will install a map switch on the clip-on.
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