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Old May 2nd 2015, 02:48 AM   #21
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More pictures!

Especially if you change out the plastics .
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Old May 2nd 2015, 05:57 AM   #22
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Ah I see

I am looking forward to seeing how light I can get my 1299S, while keeping it SS legal. Even though it is already really light, there are still improvements that can be made.

Full Akra exhaust
Lightweight battery
Titanium bolts
Cut rear rotor
520 chain/sprockets

Those things will drop about 20lbs off of it.

And Catalyst makes some lightweight race bodywork (40% lighter than standard race bodywork).
Motoholders subframe and front fairing stay is another 5/6 lbs or so. Carbon body work another 2.2lbs
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Old May 2nd 2015, 06:19 AM   #23
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I hear ya- I too am thrilled to see how light I can get my r with the basics-
Exhaust, battery (already light in the R) subframe, removing charcoal canister, race gas cap etc etc. the ounces add up!
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Old May 2nd 2015, 06:44 AM   #24
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Motoholders subframe and front fairing stay is another 5/6 lbs or so.
How much do those things weigh on the Panigale? Has anybody compared the weight of the Motoholders to the OEM?

You have to be "careful" with that (for lack of a better term) because there are some cases where an aftermarket subframe isn't lighter. For instance on the R6, the subframe is made of Magnesium...and the Motoholders is heavier.

On the RSV4, you don't save any weight going with aftermarket.

But, with an aftermarket one you can easily bend them back into shape after a crash. Whereas the OEM cast ones will just break. So that is why I typically go with aftermarket aluminum ones. But in some cases they aren't lighter.
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It is my understanding that the 1299 and 1199R make identical HP. The R has internals that spin up a little faster and the exhaust...but the 1299 has 100 more cc's (like they say, there is no replacement for displacement ).

When you consider all of the other variables that go into acceleration (rider size, weight, ability to get into a tuck, RPM's, tires, gearing, available grip, setup/geometry, so on and so forth)...if somebody on a 1299 "gets left" by somebody on an 1199R, that says more about the ability (or lack thereof) of the rider on the 1299, than it does about the capabilities of the 1199R.
All true, especially the second half, but it's important to note that if you look at the 2 dyno graphs the S is only above 200hp for 500rpms. The R is above 200hp for a full 2000rpms and has a bit more overrun. There's s lot more area under the curve at the top. That should make it easier to keep it the sweet spot. If you aren't slow like me.

I only weigh 148 pounds so I don't need to to chase weight loss on the bike.
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I only weigh 148 pounds so I don't need to to chase weight loss on the bike.
Dude you suck.

I am 215lbs...without gear.

Im not fat. I have a 32" waist; I just like to lift weights.
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I read the 1199 (and I assume 1299) subframe is lighter than the one on the 899.

I also read the Motoholders subframe weighs 2.7lbs.

Anybody know how much the OEM subframe on the 11/1299 weighs?

The lightweight batteries typically shave about 5-6lbs off the bike. If I can shave another 5lbs with the subframe, that would be a quick and easy 10lbs lost.
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I read the 1199 (and I assume 1299) subframe is lighter than the one on the 899.

I also read the Motoholders subframe weighs 2.7lbs.

Anybody know how much the OEM subframe on the 11/1299 weighs?

The lightweight batteries typically shave about 5-6lbs off the bike. If I can shave another 5lbs with the subframe, that would be a quick and easy 10lbs lost.
Subframe, 5lbs difference from stock
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Chris, almost another pound
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That is 6lbs right there. Thanks.
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