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Old Jun 16th 2015, 03:12 PM   #1
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USA vs Euro HP numbers hummm.....

I understand on both sides of the world Ducati states 205 HP for the 1299. But I would like to know from some of the much more seasoned Ducati family. If the U.S. bikes are in someway EPA restricted like the Yamaha R1M. I see that Yamaha has come right out and said that the American bike will be down on power @10-12hp compared to their European counterpart. Yet Ducati has not mentioned any of this. I guess what I am getting at is this.... Many euro shops are stating 190 rwhp on a stock Pani vs the American shops stating 175 to 180 rwhp.

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If true, what is most ironic is that European emission regulations are far more restrictive than the US. You would think the US models would have more power.
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Old Jun 16th 2015, 04:43 PM   #3
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While our EPA restrictions are lower than the Euro standards our DOT is a bunch of wankers and limit how much HP and Top Speed we can have. Euro bikes always make more hp and top speed in stock form than US auto's do.. Send the Thank you letter directly to the US Department of Transportation!
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Curse you DOT!!!
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Old Jun 16th 2015, 05:29 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by b9009b View Post
While our EPA restrictions are lower than the Euro standards our DOT is a bunch of wankers and limit how much HP and Top Speed we can have. Euro bikes always make more hp and top speed in stock form than US auto's do.. Send the Thank you letter directly to the US Department of Transportation!
I'm not aware of any regulations with respect to HP or speed.

Emissions and noise restrictions, specifically CA standards for the two, are what holds the US back.
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Originally Posted by b9009b View Post
While our EPA restrictions are lower than the Euro standards our DOT is a bunch of wankers and limit how much HP and Top Speed we can have. Euro bikes always make more hp and top speed in stock form than US auto's do.. Send the Thank you letter directly to the US Department of Transportation!
Very true, the EU has a lot stricter limits on decibels. They also make it a lot tougher to use any aftermarket product unless it is approved by the inspection agency.
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205 claimed with 10% driveline loss = 185 hp, most of the bikes seem near that number if the dyno is performed correctly. The speed sensor issue was raised as a possible cause for low numbers
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Doesn't this have to do with the difference between bhp and hp?
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Old Jun 16th 2015, 06:51 PM   #9
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Just a side note, when I had my 467cid Chevy motor built for my Chevelle 3 years ago, I was at the initial dyno in Colorado and the engine builder said engine builders and manufacturers use a different HP calculation than they did back in the 60s in the USA. Using that formula my motor make a few LESS HP

Currently making 575hp/575ft.lb. torque in case you're wondering

Isn't gas twice as expensive as well over in the EU?
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Old Jun 16th 2015, 10:46 PM   #10
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Isn't gas twice as expensive as well over in the EU?
In Finland 98 octane is 1,64/liter which equals 6,94$/gallon.
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