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Old Nov 9th 2015, 04:40 PM   #21
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I don't have the NEW BMW, but I had the 2010 S1000RR, and it would randomly die too. Their forums have plenty of threads about the same thing, so it's not just Ducati.
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Old Nov 9th 2015, 05:24 PM   #22
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yesterday on my way out of a parking lot she stalled 3 times. I gave her planty of throttle but just died. 3 times in 2 minutes. she was plenty warm after having just arrived there from a good ride, just for a coffee. I had to pull over to a nearby gas station and do a complete restart. Plenty of fuel in the tank. It may be my imagination but after restart she did seem to idle just a tad better, but can't be sure. only 250 km on her so far.
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Old Nov 9th 2015, 06:14 PM   #23
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yesterday on my way out of a parking lot she stalled 3 times. I gave her planty of throttle but just died. 3 times in 2 minutes. she was plenty warm after having just arrived there from a good ride, just for a coffee. I had to pull over to a nearby gas station and do a complete restart. Plenty of fuel in the tank. It may be my imagination but after restart she did seem to idle just a tad better, but can't be sure. only 250 km on her so far.


There are so many of these stories about the Panigale stalling that it seems like those that DON'T have problems are the exception!
Some of the other Ducati's also stall like the Street Fighter. and the Multistrada and Diavel.. It have heard this from others owning these bikes..

I really believe it is an issue due to the extremely lean tuning these bikes get from the factory just to pass the EPA emissions etc. Hell. This is the only bike I have ever owned that IDLES at 1700 rpm LOL... It has always run exceptionally hot and ran real lean through most of the cruising range until I installed The Rapid Bike Racing module.. With the stock tune from the factory when it was new It literally melted and bubbled up a rear Carbon Fiber fender I had installed( and my friends 1299 S has melted his stock plastic fender/hugger) Well, SOMETHING is wrong when it happens to that many people..

Ducati just doesn't want to address it. At least not to the general public at large. They might deal with individuals like me that are requesting it to be fixed properly.. I have had my bike in the shop so many times I have lost count.. It is there right now.. I have had the bike down at the dealership more weekends than I have been able to ride it.
Ducati depends on those that just don't care and believe that "that is just the way the Ducati's are" and those that will just put up with it.. Well to each his own, but if you pay $25 grand for a bike and you are happy with it stalling and bucking and kicking when you are just cruising at 45 mph down the street etc. the go for it..!
I proved by adding the Rapid Bike to my bike that it can run well with good throttle response... I just need to get mine to stop having the throttle stick while de accelerating in 1st gear.. As I mentioned earlier ,,So far my bike has had the throttle plates adjusted, It has been retuned, The ECU was Reflashed (Then had a brand new ECU installed) It just had a whole new throttle body assembly installed and it STILL has the throttle stick EVERY time you roll off the throttle in first gear. It sticks around 3500 rpm for about a second or two then suddenly lets off. Scary if you don't know what to expect... Now the dealer wants to replace the entire clutch assembly..?? WTF??

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Old Nov 9th 2015, 07:00 PM   #24
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when my bike was new and stock I had a few stalls. at very slow speed it once almost caused me to dump the bike.

so I made some changes:
- charcoal canister - GONE, all hoses removed and plugged at the throttle bodies
- exhaust servo, also gone. Termis added and Tuneboy added with custom map. This made the biggest difference, along with the charcoal canister.
- secondary air injection system - that's completely gone too, valve removed and airbox plugged. So if you think the SAIS helps with idle, etc, well maybe if you're 100% stock, although I don't see how adding air to the exhaust would make for a smoother idle? But I can personally attest that completely deleting the entire system does not hurt rideability AT ALL.

I can't remember the last time my bike even threatened to stall.
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Old Nov 9th 2015, 07:53 PM   #25
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My bike has stalled about 10 times thus far. 100% stock and she has about 475 miles on the clock. Headed in soon for the first service, but the dealer had already told me you cannot remove the charcoal canister in the 1299...lol. They also told me to wait until after my first service to see if the behavior continues. My bike has only stalled on me when decelerating/coming to a stop. Usually occurs while downshifting (clutchless) between 0-15 mph. It seems as though my bike has fuel issues at low rpms...for as many times as it has stalled, it has Almost stalled even more, but the rpms surge and sometimes catch it before it stalls.

It has Always started right up after it has stalled, but I'm not too happy about it either. I try and tell myself it's a track monster that isn't really suited for street riding, but deep down I know my logic is flawed. I am reluctant, and rightfully so, to start ripping out the canister, playing with the exhaust, and spending money on a new tune...but it looks like that's where I'm headed. I don't want to void the warranty and I certainly don't want to spend more money to have the bike run the way it should out of the box...

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Old Nov 9th 2015, 09:43 PM   #26
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you won't void the warranty by ripping out that California-only emissions bullshit. search for the thread on charcoal canister removal - people have put clear instructions on how to remove the canister, and if you're OCD and want to remove the ENTIRE system, hoses and all, I posted a how-to on that.
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Old Nov 9th 2015, 10:48 PM   #27
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I may be looking at a tune if the behaviour happens again. pretty sure it will by the sounds of it. I had a similar issue with my car after a new race tune was added. stalling at deceleration due to lean and low idle in the tune. Reprogrammed and fixed it. We don't have emmissions testing here in BC anymore so might as well dump the canister too.
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Old Nov 10th 2015, 06:31 AM   #28
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How could the canister cause this?
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Old Nov 10th 2015, 09:55 AM   #29
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Originally Posted by Ductape View Post
I may be looking at a tune if the behaviour happens again. pretty sure it will by the sounds of it. I had a similar issue with my car after a new race tune was added. stalling at deceleration due to lean and low idle in the tune. Reprogrammed and fixed it. We don't have emmissions testing here in BC anymore so might as well dump the canister too.
Adding 8-10% fuel via Tuneboy at idle and off idle cured all my stalling issues.
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Old Nov 10th 2015, 11:08 AM   #30
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How could the canister cause this?
by filling with gas - Panigale tanks vent a LOT of fuel vapor, which condenses. Then when the system tries to reinject that fuel into the intake, it'll run overly rich.
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