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Old Nov 10th 2015, 10:19 AM   #31
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Originally Posted by kismetcapitan View Post
when my bike was new and stock I had a few stalls. at very slow speed it once almost caused me to dump the bike.

so I made some changes:
- charcoal canister - GONE, all hoses removed and plugged at the throttle bodies
- exhaust servo, also gone. Termis added and Tuneboy added with custom map. This made the biggest difference, along with the charcoal canister.
- secondary air injection system - that's completely gone too, valve removed and airbox plugged. So if you think the SAIS helps with idle, etc, well maybe if you're 100% stock, although I don't see how adding air to the exhaust would make for a smoother idle? But I can personally attest that completely deleting the entire system does not hurt rideability AT ALL.

I can't remember the last time my bike even threatened to stall.
Same here... I had a couple of stalls in the beginning, but after doing all of the above and more, I haven't had one in around 6,000 miles.
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Old Nov 10th 2015, 04:58 PM   #32
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Originally Posted by 80shilling View Post
Same here... I had a couple of stalls in the beginning, but after doing all of the above and more, I haven't had one in around 6,000 miles.
My mechanic at Ducati knew right away what might be casuing my issue and plans to remove the canister at 1st service. I hope he's right!
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Old Nov 10th 2015, 07:51 PM   #33
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Originally Posted by kismetcapitan View Post
by filling with gas - Panigale tanks vent a LOT of fuel vapor, which condenses. Then when the system tries to reinject that fuel into the intake, it'll run overly rich.
So removal isn't strictly necessary...you just need to pull off the hose that goes to the throttle bodies and plug it?
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Old Nov 10th 2015, 09:26 PM   #34
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Originally Posted by Slowdive2 View Post
So removal isn't strictly necessary...you just need to pull off the hose that goes to the throttle bodies and plug it?
there's a hose from each throttle body that have a T-connection so only one hose actually reaches the canister. Plugging this hose gets the job done (although you'll need to extend the vent and drain lines from the fuel tank itself).

But by removing the right side electronics cover IIRC, you can access the throttle bodies directly, and with the right bolt, plug the hole and toss all those hoses. Can't recall the size off the top of my head, but in the charcoal canister thread, I detailed what I did and posted some pics too.
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Old Nov 11th 2015, 09:30 AM   #35
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I spoke to my dealer and they have not yet removed the charcoal canister from the 1299. Is this something you would recommend I do on my own, take to my competent mechanic, or let Ducati do?
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I pulled the charcoal canister within 150 miles of getting the bike. Has stalled twice in the last 800 miles.Of course both at a completely wrong time in traffic but started within a few tries.

Definitely going to buy some tuning products this winter. Either tune boy or rapid.
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Old Nov 11th 2015, 01:18 PM   #37
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The mechanic at my dealership told me that removing the canister on a 1299 will throw a code . I don't know if it is BS or not. He said it was not an issue on the 1199's but is on the 1299's Maybe others out thee will know better.

At this point I am really careful not to screw with the factory stuff any further since the factory rep told my dealership's head mechanic that he had voided my warranty by reflashing the ECU. The dealer had to buy me another ECU!

I have never owned a bike with so many restrictions from the factory placed on it.. (and such little aftermarket stuff available).. I cannot even find an aftermarket windshield for the 1299 (no the 1199 version will NOT fit due to different mounting holes placement) it is ridiculous..

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The mechanic at my dealership told me that removing the canister on a 1299 will throw a code . I don't know if it is BS or not. He said it was not an issue on the 1199's but is on the 1299's Maybe others out thee will know better.

At this point I am really careful not to screw with the factory stuff any further since the factory rep told my dealership's head mechanic that he had voided my warranty by reflashing the ECU. The dealer had to buy me another ECU!

I have never owned a bike with so many restrictions from the factory placed on it.. (and such little aftermarket stuff available).. I cannot even find an aftermarket windshield for the 1299 (no the 1199 version will NOT fit due to different mounting holes placement) it is ridiculous..

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complete bullshit.

There is a valve in the system that's controlled by the ECU. I just unplugged it and sealed it off with electrical tape and zipties. NOTHING remains of my charcoal canister system, except for that plug, and no codes at all. I yanked the secondary air injection system, unplugged and removed the valve - no codes or problems. Exhaust servo - unplugged and gone. No CEL, no codes.
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the Ducati Performance high windscreen for the 1299 has worked very well for me. 4000 city miles and not a scratch.
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Old Nov 12th 2015, 01:13 AM   #40
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Question for someone who may know. Does rapidbike evo void warranty (From Canada here).

Also does one endup losing all those features like engine break control the traditional way (ducati lcd menu) for some magic buttons one adds to the steering wheel?
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