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Old Aug 2nd 2016, 06:35 PM   #31
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Just to clarify, that last answer was for the ProShift not the Translogic QS
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Old Aug 3rd 2016, 12:30 AM   #32
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Not interested in that ProShift PlayStation crap, what about the TL QS?
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Old Aug 3rd 2016, 09:51 AM   #33
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At the moment, no. That function would be in the ECU or would have to be modified somehow in say a Rapidbike set up. Rapidbike has the settings in the software but their QS is bi directional. Someone could probably figure out how to rig something. Yea I dont get the ProShift deal. The video shows a guy banging through gears in rapid succession in a fashion that is not realistic to how you would shift a bike through the RPM range even in a race configuration. Even on the fastest spinning motors, a quality QS and functioning foot are going to be able to easily keep pace with the rev range. I totally get it on a car with a manually shifted gearbox as the lever throw and clutch are much more "manual" than the bike. This TL setup is as fast as anyone could ever use on a bike. Again I actually use the clutch a lot. Im not banging through gears at every stoplight like the guy who didnt get "Mustang Madness" out of his system at 18. I am going to play around with the TL power shifter for some other projects as you can retain the shift lever. Andy at TL is awesome and has been a huge asset for me in figuring some things out. Cant go wrong with that company
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Old Aug 3rd 2016, 02:15 PM   #34
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At the moment, no. That function would be in the ECU or would have to be modified somehow in say a Rapidbike set up. Rapidbike has the settings in the software but their QS is bi directional. Someone could probably figure out how to rig something. Yea I dont get the ProShift deal. The video shows a guy banging through gears in rapid succession in a fashion that is not realistic to how you would shift a bike through the RPM range even in a race configuration. Even on the fastest spinning motors, a quality QS and functioning foot are going to be able to easily keep pace with the rev range. I totally get it on a car with a manually shifted gearbox as the lever throw and clutch are much more "manual" than the bike. This TL setup is as fast as anyone could ever use on a bike. Again I actually use the clutch a lot. Im not banging through gears at every stoplight like the guy who didnt get "Mustang Madness" out of his system at 18. I am going to play around with the TL power shifter for some other projects as you can retain the shift lever. Andy at TL is awesome and has been a huge asset for me in figuring some things out. Cant go wrong with that company
Yeah, really Playstation crap dude. Probably the mean reason why Raymond Roche mounted it on his Ducati. Of course he's not the Rossi and Lorenzo kind of driver you guys apparently are. He's just still in his 'Mustang Madness' age I guess, spending a lot of money for just banging through gears..
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I think his point was, and I would have to agree that this thread started out about a practical, logical, engineered solution to an issue that some people would like to fix. The Pro-shift in no way, shape or form fits into this category. there is nothing wrong with the Proshift system. It is what it is but does it belong in this thread or offer a realistic alternative over a better QSfor 99.9% of the people who own a motorcycle? No. Its like having a thread on performance mods for your engine with things like an exhaust system, air filter, tuning module then someone post a pic of a direct port, twin bottle nitrous system. Sure you can do it but its really a bit outside the scope of reality considering the context. Raymond Roche has a "1199 CONCEPT BIKE". I would hardly consider this a recommendation platform for anything rational like a performance solution for a street bike and on the extreme side, I still have yet to see any rider in a sanctioned series using one of these so until that happens, the rational for a racing application is suspect as well. The Proshift is neat idea but I cannot see an application anywhere for this thing except for drag racing and this is probably the wrong forum for that. Now if you have a handicap that precludes you from normal gear shift operation, then my position would of course change and the rational would be justifiable.
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I meant no insult in my comment and should have added a after it.
As long as your happy with it that's the main thing
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Old Aug 5th 2016, 09:35 PM   #37
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I just mounted one up. Feels much more positive in terms of shifting even with standard rearsets. My biggest concern with the OEM switch was with auto-blip. If you didn't grab enough pedal during the shift you would trigger the switch, which would activate the auto-blip function but you never actually engaged the new gear, so the bike would surge and you'd be in the wrong gear.
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I have a different challenge with my shifting habits on the downshift. I tend to keep the shift pedal somewhat loaded when downshifting quickly and I believe not completing the "make/break" cycle on the switch, and therefore, I don't always get a blip and resulting down-shift. I find myself having to deliberately raise my foot. Could be because of the pedal travel required as much as the OEM sensor I suppose, but it's clumsy feeling nonetheless compared to what I am used to. Any thoughts on an improvement with the TL sensor retrofit?
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Originally Posted by Scottm091 View Post
I have a different challenge with my shifting habits on the downshift. I tend to keep the shift pedal somewhat loaded when downshifting quickly and I believe not completing the "make/break" cycle on the switch, and therefore, I don't always get a blip and resulting down-shift. I find myself having to deliberately raise my foot. Could be because of the pedal travel required as much as the OEM sensor I suppose, but it's clumsy feeling nonetheless compared to what I am used to. Any thoughts on an improvement with the TL sensor retrofit?
Try changing the pedal position. It sounds like you run standard shift pattern. If your natural resting position is loading the shifter adjust the pedal downward.

The benefit with the TL QS sensor is there is no additional movement required to trigger the ignition cut/blip, all the motion will simply go towards mechanically changing the gear. Also the revised linkage allows you to change the pedal by simply turning the shift dos, so adjustment is faster and you can be more precise. One thing that you may have an issue with, depending on where the shift threshold is with the load cell if you tend to load the shifter is that you can still trigger the IC/AB although it is
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Old Aug 6th 2016, 06:35 AM   #40
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Thanks for the input - there is a high probability you are spot on. I am running std shift pattern. It's not an issue under normal in-town road riding conditions, but when the riding gets more spirited and I shift from purposefully "thinking" about the down-shift, to letting instinct take over my foot position likely changes and I am not unloading the pedal completely.
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