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Old Jul 20th 2017, 01:41 PM   #31
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We had a case in Australia with one of the local car markers. They were marketing their top car with 420kw V8. all mainstream Mags and reviewers all punched this number around in all their articles
One Workshop came out saying that on their dyno fresh off the car lot, they engine made 303Kw. Other tunner shops soon started to post up between 300 - 340kw. No where near 420kw.


But like at my local track.... the current superbike class poitns leader races a 600cc and is 2-3 seconds than the next rider on a ex ASBK HP4.

Guess the HP number battle at the local cafe is getting serious.....
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Old Jul 20th 2017, 01:42 PM   #32
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Originally Posted by Mutt1979 View Post
I reckon it's because Harley Davidson have taken over
So no more listing HP numbers and just list Torque only?
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Old Jul 20th 2017, 03:11 PM   #33
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Originally Posted by DStyleNZL View Post
So no more listing HP numbers and just list Torque only?
List the famous celebrities that own them.

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Old Jul 20th 2017, 03:13 PM   #34
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Every frickin sport bike forum has this topic come up except the S1000RR forum. It is the accepted norm that the difference between BHP/PS and rwhp is around 10-15%. For BMW's it is around 6-8% power loss. I remember the Yamaha R1 guys cried foul a few years ago too!

Get over it! .... Until we start racing dyno's it doesn't matter. All that really matters is the rear wheel HP... Even then you can only put down so much power in the first 4 gears on any current SB because you are traction limited.
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Old Jul 20th 2017, 06:42 PM   #35
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Like i said in the V4 post. HP numbers have not from a statistical significance factor gon anywhere but to fairy dust land. The easy to obtain HRC Kit parts built 2006 (15 years ago folks) 1000RR makes roughly 205 RWP on Attack's Dyno and North Vally's Dyno. Unless you start looking at artificial aspiration, it ain't going anywhere. Your going to hover between 195 and 205 at the crank. Sure you can squeeze more out of it but there are not many here that can afford to maintain that and not from a monetary perspective. HP is "attention to detail" intensive.
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Old Jul 20th 2017, 06:47 PM   #36
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Time to step up to the current century. I get the homologation BS but come on. When do the games stop with this cock festival over a couple of HP. You want to get it done, get it done. This is where its at folks.
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Old Jul 20th 2017, 06:52 PM   #37
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Oh, you mean this ?

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Old Jul 20th 2017, 06:54 PM   #38
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This is an interesting thread about quoted bhp figures and it has got me thinking. I recently received the attached document from my local dealer, it is a comparison of the R-FE and SL. It states that the R-FE power figure comes from an engine dyno and the SL power figure from a chassis dyno....very different methods of measurement that would indicate that the SL engine has a significant power increase over the R-FE

Thoughts anyone?
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Old Jul 20th 2017, 07:05 PM   #39
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Nola what are we looking at?
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Old Jul 20th 2017, 07:17 PM   #40
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Thats a dyno graph. Its produced from a Dynamometer, which is a device for measuring torque or power.

Oh, wait...$hit, I really dont know any of those fancy mechanical terms. My nephew drew it on his etch-a-sketch, so I reposted it to look smart.

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