Go Back   Ducati Forum > Ducati Panigale Forum > Ducati 1299

Ducati 1299 Ducati 1299 Forum - Ducati 1299 Panigale Superbike Motorcycle Forum


Thanks Tree136Thanks
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Nov 8th 2017, 09:59 AM   #71
Senior Member
 
Zelnik's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2012
From: Sweden

Posts: 250
Thanks: 123

Limited edition Ducati,wich one isnt that nowadays Jarel?
I think the base version is the special one..
Zelnik is offline  
 
Old Nov 8th 2017, 10:14 AM   #72
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2015
From: Trelleborg, Sweden.

Posts: 442
Thanks: 223

I Ride: '16 Pani R, 1098R Bayliss, KTM1090R.
Agree. And with a 1500 bike designation, its really not limited that much at all.
They would probs have not sold an extra 500 on that, as the price is bollox.
Why not make it more of a rarity if it really is so special?
Back to the old days of 200 or 500 of a particular “special”.
990Glen is offline  
Old Nov 8th 2017, 10:48 AM   #73
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2011
From: Norfolk. UK

Posts: 1,145
Thanks: 578

I Ride: 1299S
Originally Posted by jarelj View Post
No one who buys the Speciale is entering their data into a spreadsheet and calculating the cost-benefit ratios. It's a limited edition Ducati that comes with some cool/special things, looks great, and is a numbered bike, and anyone who is a Ducatisi will know what that bike is when you pull up on it. That's the extent of it, there's nothing else to talk about really.
I'm with you on that. Not contesting the point. Merely indicating that for those that cannot stretch financially to the Speciale, they can get close to what it offers in terms of performance and accessories for more a manageable sum bar perhaps the paintwork and exclusivity, which may well suit them. Are you able to confirm BTW if the full system comes with the bellypan (as per that fitted on the Speciale)
topolino is offline  
Old Nov 8th 2017, 11:05 AM   #74
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2013
From: Chicago, IL

Posts: 1,068
Thanks: 233

Just saw the launch photos and that video - the engine sounds ridiculous!!! Best wait a year after launch for me.

Why is the displacement 1100cc?

I'll post links later.
BadBoyBeltran is offline  
Old Nov 8th 2017, 11:11 AM   #75
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2015
From: san diego

Posts: 79
Thanks: 19

I Ride: 2016 R
Originally Posted by topolino View Post
I'm with you on that. Not contesting the point. Merely indicating that for those that cannot stretch financially to the Speciale, they can get close to what it offers in terms of performance and accessories for more a manageable sum bar perhaps the paintwork and exclusivity, which may well suit them. Are you able to confirm BTW if the full system comes with the bellypan (as per that fitted on the Speciale)
no you cannot turn a v4s to the same spec as the Speciale.
v4s is 214 hp / 91.5 lb-ft
Speciale is 226 hp same torque
Still not worth 13k more but imagine how much the v4r will cost when that model comes out. Wouldn't surprise me if its very close to 50k
nikko is offline  
Old Nov 8th 2017, 11:18 AM   #76
Site Sponsor
 
jarelj's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2012
From: Omaha, NE USA

Posts: 2,016
Thanks: 1997

I Ride: V4S and Ninja 400. Dichotomy.
Originally Posted by nikko View Post
no you cannot turn a v4s to the same spec as the Speciale.
v4s is 214 hp / 91.5 lb-ft
Speciale is 226 hp same torque
Still not worth 13k more but imagine how much the v4r will cost when that model comes out. Wouldn't surprise me if its very close to 50k
The 12HP increase is due to the Akrapovic full race exhaust, same exhaust you can buy for the other V4 models for ~$5,700. A future R model would have to be price-capped at 40K EURO per World Superbike rules.
Thanks from Mrdcook2
jarelj is offline  
Old Nov 8th 2017, 11:22 AM   #77
Site Sponsor
 
jarelj's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2012
From: Omaha, NE USA

Posts: 2,016
Thanks: 1997

I Ride: V4S and Ninja 400. Dichotomy.
Originally Posted by BadBoyBeltran View Post
Just saw the launch photos and that video - the engine sounds ridiculous!!! Best wait a year after launch for me.

Why is the displacement 1100cc?

I'll post links later.
Straight from Domenicali's mouth, the displacement is 1100cc because they liked the balance of torque with the extra 100cc's for a road-going machine, and he said Ducati doesn't agree or follow with some arbitrary limit on what size engines should be on street bikes. He said we can make it an 1100cc and it makes a great motor, so why not?

The R model will have to be under 1000cc and if it follows prior trends will probably have similar power output with slightly less torque.
Thanks from Johnnyflies
jarelj is offline  
Old Nov 8th 2017, 11:24 AM   #78
Site Sponsor
 
jarelj's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2012
From: Omaha, NE USA

Posts: 2,016
Thanks: 1997

I Ride: V4S and Ninja 400. Dichotomy.
Originally Posted by topolino View Post
I'm with you on that. Not contesting the point. Merely indicating that for those that cannot stretch financially to the Speciale, they can get close to what it offers in terms of performance and accessories for more a manageable sum bar perhaps the paintwork and exclusivity, which may well suit them. Are you able to confirm BTW if the full system comes with the bellypan (as per that fitted on the Speciale)
Sorry, I can't answer that yet, we don't have full visibility on what's included with the kit at this point.
jarelj is offline  
Old Nov 8th 2017, 11:27 AM   #79
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2011
From: Norfolk. UK

Posts: 1,145
Thanks: 578

I Ride: 1299S
Originally Posted by nikko View Post
no you cannot turn a v4s to the same spec as the Speciale.
v4s is 214 hp / 91.5 lb-ft
Speciale is 226 hp same torque
Still not worth 13k more but imagine how much the v4r will cost when that model comes out. Wouldn't surprise me if its very close to 50k
Wrong!! As Jarel has said you can bolt the full Akra system on a base or an S and achieve 226bhp. No difference in power output across all three models in that instance.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
topolino is offline  
Old Nov 8th 2017, 11:28 AM   #80
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2011
From: Norfolk. UK

Posts: 1,145
Thanks: 578

I Ride: 1299S
Originally Posted by jarelj View Post
Sorry, I can't answer that yet, we don't have full visibility on what's included with the kit at this point.
Ok thank you anyway. Will you be able to PM me or post up here when you find out more.....Regards.....Topo

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
topolino is offline  
Reply

  Ducati Forum > Ducati Panigale Forum > Ducati 1299

Tags
1299, buy, twin



Search tags for this page
Click on a term to search for related topics.
Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Discussions
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
For Sale: Ducati by Dainese Twin Leather Jacket G Pelle Twin Black EU 56 US 46 melvinakshay Ebay Auctions 0 Sep 10th 2016 09:38 PM
Twin turbo 899 NOLA Ducati 1199 0 Apr 2nd 2016 03:55 PM
Never Ridden A Twin SoonerNation Ducati 1199 4 Apr 5th 2012 09:52 PM


Facebook Twitter Google+ RSS Feed