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Old Dec 4th 2017, 12:05 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by cycler View Post
That being said. I havent done much research on the tuneboy. Do you have to send your ecu to get flashed or just download the tuneboy? And here is a question that I wish someone could answer because I never understood these things and dont know how to do them and let my friends play around with my TTS tuners on my harleys or play around on other tuners on my street bikes. And they never explained it properly to me and Im not ashamed to ask. How does one tune a rapid bike or tuneboy and get a map that they are happy with? How does one know what parameters they need? I am clueless to this. Just trying to be taught on this method. When I track any of my bikes that have fuel management systems , depending on the track or where I am some friends play around with my tunes but never explained it to me so that I understand.
Rapidbike is supposed to tune itself but I have no experience with it. You load Tuneboy yourself with a computer and a piece of hardware that comes with the Tuneboy software. You have to be comfortable with using a computer and flashing ECUs but it isn't hard. It comes with some standard tunes for different exhaust setups but to get the most out of it you should probably visit a dyno tuner.

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Old Dec 4th 2017, 07:53 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by Cosmik de Bris View Post
Rapidbike is supposed to tune itself but I have no experience with it. You load Tuneboy yourself with a computer and a piece of hardware that comes with the Tuneboy software. You have to be comfortable with using a computer and flashing ECUs but it isn't hard. It comes with some standard tunes for different exhaust setups but to get the most out of it you should probably visit a dyno tuner.

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Thanks for the feedback. Even though Im clueless how to tune the parameters on fuel management systems and make maps. Im comfortable loading a map into a power commander or any other unit if the map is made. And i am comfortable flashing an ecu if its as easy as you say with the instructions. After doing research on the tune boy , i didnt know whether to get the tune boy or rapid bike. However I settled on the rapid bike because i liked the way it was on my monster 1200s and thought the ecu had to be sent out for the tune boy. Now i know that i can reflash my ecu with the tuneboy. I looked up tuneboy but they dont make anything for bmws. So ill end up getting the rapid bike for my 2016 S1000RR and keep the power commander 5 with autotune on my 2015 S1000R. If i can sell the power commander ill get a rapid bike for the S1000R unless I can sell it along with its 39 mods (overkill i know). And pick up a aprilia tuono factory and then add a tune boy
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Old Dec 5th 2017, 05:56 AM   #13
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We offer tuning for these bikes far superior to any piggyback module and much more in-depth and advanced than Tuneboys offering. Tuneboy is fine for most users but misses many of the most important tables on these bikes.

We offer full AlphaN fueling conversion which greatly improves power and ridability, especially in the part to low throttle range where these bikes need it most. We also improve throttle response, power (of course), quick shifter, timing etc.

Available via our easy to use handheld tuning device, you will just need to simply read/write the ECU which only requires access to a windows based computer. I have independently verified 199WHP (93 octane) 1299's via Ducati Detroit's dyno.

https://brentuningmoto.com/product/2...ning-handheld/
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Old Dec 5th 2017, 06:33 AM   #14
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I have had both on my 2013 1199R. The tuneboy is much more hands-on when getting to know the system and using it. I struggled a lot and had a tuner help (@ additional cost) that used to support TB. I picked the TB solely for downshift blipping. He reluctantly did it and got it working on the dyno. I got it home and it did not work. I finally just left the module plugged in and rode the bike up the road. It worked. This is for a racebike so I am limited in on-road testing. Track only. Currently everything works but as a previous poster stated...the settings need work. I had such a hard time I am scared to touch a thing...lol. If the other tuners offered a blip function I would have surely went another route. The install on the rapidbike was a bit of a pain but not terrible. The support from RapidBike is outstanding! Zohsix and Yaman are as customer focused as I have seen. I ended up putting the rapidbike on my 675R and it is slowly learning and making corrections. Again, it is a racebike so I must ride it on track for the learning. Just adding info to the thread. I am sure there are quite a few people mulling this decision. I have found some great info on this forum.
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Old Feb 10th 2018, 09:21 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by BrenTuning View Post
We offer tuning for these bikes far superior to any piggyback module and much more in-depth and advanced than Tuneboys offering. Tuneboy is fine for most users but misses many of the most important tables on these bikes.

We offer full AlphaN fueling conversion which greatly improves power and ridability, especially in the part to low throttle range where these bikes need it most. We also improve throttle response, power (of course), quick shifter, timing etc.

Available via our easy to use handheld tuning device, you will just need to simply read/write the ECU which only requires access to a windows based computer. I have independently verified 199WHP (93 octane) 1299's via Ducati Detroit's dyno.

https://brentuningmoto.com/product/2...ning-handheld/
Wondering why more people on this forum aren't using this vs RB an TB, seems like a vastly superior product. Looking forward to trying it
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Old Feb 10th 2018, 11:46 AM   #16
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I installed Tuneboy on my 15 mod 1199R and Used the map for an Akro slip on I noticed no difference at all,I then took it over to the bloke who designed Tuneboy who worked on it for about 5hrs on his dyno,I couldn’t be happier with it’s perfomane,it has flawless power right through the rpm and produced 199.2hp,it also has 2 other maps I can access and cruise control,the only thing is he is hard to get hold of,but I’m happy I used him and I’m pretty sure he knows his shit.
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Old Feb 11th 2018, 02:18 PM   #17
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BrenTune question...

1. Does your handheld plug into connector under seat or is there an installation requirement?

2. If the bike is brought to you will the tune be the same as the handheld or will you do a custom setup for my bike?

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Old Feb 13th 2018, 08:53 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by BrenTuning View Post
We offer tuning for these bikes far superior to any piggyback module and much more in-depth and advanced than Tuneboys offering. Tuneboy is fine for most users but misses many of the most important tables on these bikes.

We offer full AlphaN fueling conversion which greatly improves power and ridability, especially in the part to low throttle range where these bikes need it most. We also improve throttle response, power (of course), quick shifter, timing etc.

Available via our easy to use handheld tuning device, you will just need to simply read/write the ECU which only requires access to a windows based computer. I have independently verified 199WHP (93 octane) 1299's via Ducati Detroit's dyno.

https://brentuningmoto.com/product/2...ning-handheld/
Originally Posted by ultra300x View Post
Wondering why more people on this forum aren't using this vs RB an TB, seems like a vastly superior product. Looking forward to trying it
I have a different question. In a full alpha-N setup, how will the system take advantage of ram air in order to not run lean at high speed or rich at low speed? Or compensate for load differences up or downhill? Or elevation changes? I live in Norway, so the last two WILL be a challenge in a pure alpha-N. And the stock setup already is throttle load based (meaning the load axis on the table is throttle percentage), so what exactly is changed? Just the MAP compensation is removed?

I do appreciate the hand held device instead of needing to connect a laptop every time I want to make a difference to the setup, but how is the tuning part solved? Is there a way to do live mapping, or do I need to read out, then change, then save, then read the TPS line again?
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Old Feb 18th 2018, 11:55 AM   #19
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Wondering why more people on this forum aren't using this vs RB an TB, seems like a vastly superior product. Looking forward to trying it
Woolich Racing is the front runner.

BT has it pros and cons, but I think its still misses a few features that TB and Woolich have.

TB is a very good product. Its just not "hurr-durr " proof and requires time to find tune.
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Old Feb 18th 2018, 03:45 PM   #20
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I have a different question. In a full alpha-N setup, how will the system take advantage of ram air in order to not run lean at high speed or rich at low speed? Or compensate for load differences up or downhill? Or elevation changes?
In an alpha-N setup I don't think you can. The only way to tune for these conditions is to measure the amount of air going into the engine with a MAP of MAF.

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