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Old Jan 5th 2018, 02:13 PM   #1
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Panigale V4 vs 1299 Dyno Results

A generated a comparison video of V4 vs 1299 dyno results for those of you who are contemplating trading-in your 1299s for a V4. I also compared the V4 Stradale to the S1000RR and RSV4. See video and plots are below.










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Old Jan 5th 2018, 02:50 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by Ponyboy View Post
A generated a comparison video of V4 vs 1299 dyno results for those of you who are contemplating trading-in your 1299s for a V4. I also compared the V4 Stradale to the S1000RR and RSV4. See video and plots are below.










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You prove exactly why I wouldn’t run straight out and trade my ‘15 1299s in for the V4 Panigale. I think after you get over the “rush” and “excitement” of the sound of the new bike; a lot of people are going to be disappointed in the new bike compared to the old.


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The numbers definitely dont look the greatest when stacked up like this but you should be taking into account the overall bike too. HP isnt the be all end all. My bad for not knowing this but isnt the v4 a new build from ground up? if so im sure the handling has got to be a lot better if thats the case. And does the V4 rev to 14.5k?!?!?!?!?!:
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Panigale V4 vs 1299 Dyno Results

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The numbers definitely dont look the greatest when stacked up like this but you should be taking into account the overall bike too. HP isnt the be all end all. My bad for not knowing this but isnt the v4 a new build from ground up? if so im sure the handling has got to be a lot better if thats the case. And does the V4 rev to 14.5k?!?!?!?!?!:


From what I’ve read, most of the bike is all new, although the engine is a reworked version of the V4 mill from the Desmosidici RR from 2008, with some upgrades. I believe it redlines at 14k.


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I’ll stick with the FE, especially once the worlds rarest exhaust finally comes out.
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From what I’ve read, most of the bike is all new, although the engine is a reworked version of the V4 mill from the Desmosidici RR from 2008, with some upgrades. I believe it redlines at 14k.


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The 2015 Desmo RR, not the 2008.
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The engine is derived from the 2015 to 2016 Desmocedici moto GP engine with many features from the Panigale engine to make it as reliable on the road. It is a Big Bang firing order which in essence is like two Panigale engines in tandem. Hence they kept the Panigale lineage.

This is going to be a sensation! Make no mistakes about that.

We are very lucky guys.
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Old Jan 6th 2018, 06:52 PM   #8
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Watched the video (painful) and didn't see a single dyno run. Taking graphs/data from Ducati'website isn't "dyno results" imo. I'll wait to see actual side-by-side dyno tests of actual bikes.
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Old Jan 8th 2018, 09:45 AM   #9
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Pretty much this same argument was made at the introduction of the original 1199. Less low end than the 1198, thus a worse bike. I made the point then that the gearing would effectively slide the 1199's curve at a given road speed/gear on top of the 1198's, but that at the point where the 1198 was signing off, the 1199 would be taking off. Which turned out to be the case. Same generally applies here. At a given road speed and gear, the V4 will be turning more RPM (a commodity it has more of to work with), so the fact that it makes less power at say, 6,000 revs is irrelevant. The flatter, broader power curve will make the power more accessible, which they would have been hard-pressed to achieve with a twin. Power to weight won't change significantly, but the useability of that power, plus better handling from the new chassis is what the V4 should bring.
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i think real back to back dyno numbers measuring whp will tell a better story than this pictures but i agree with the video as far as power to weight ratio.
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