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Old Apr 4th 2018, 08:41 AM   #31
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Originally Posted by Goshow1199 View Post
Go with V4 it should more comfortable and you get improved electronics with more parameters and etc. It's engine and exhaust get warm but not as insane like the 1199/1299.
Take both bikes out on a few test rides.
The v4 is noticeably hotter than my 1199R, at least on the street. When on the highway I couldn't feel the heat in both. But when going slow, the v4 is leaving burn marks on my left inner knee from touching the front frame through my jeans.

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Old Apr 4th 2018, 10:53 AM   #32
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Originally Posted by Nitrouz View Post
The v4 is noticeably hotter than my 1199R, at least on the street. When on the highway I couldn't feel the heat in both. But when going slow, the v4 is leaving burn marks on my left inner knee from touching the front frame through my jeans.

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Yeah, this was the same experience I had riding the HP4. Knee touching the frame was hot enough to burn you.
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Old Apr 4th 2018, 05:51 PM   #33
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They're both over my skill grade but 1x99 > V4 emotion-wise imo.

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Very interesting Nitrouz..
Would you care to elaborate?
Perhaps you've already done so, but I haven't seen any comments from you comparing your R to the v4
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I'm still on the fence on the V4 aesthetics - it's modern but also looks a little "stormtrooper" and not as elegant as the 1299 imo. Anxious to see what BMW does with the 2019 S1000RR, they are finally dumping the asymmetrical "crazed cat" headlights, so it must be an upgrade
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I'm still on the fence on the V4 aesthetics - it's modern but also looks a little "stormtrooper" and not as elegant as the 1299 imo. Anxious to see what BMW does with the 2019 S1000RR, they are finally dumping the asymmetrical "crazed cat" headlights, so it must be an upgrade
I hated the assymetry, but I have to admit it grew on me and is distinctive lol
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Old Apr 4th 2018, 07:21 PM   #36
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Very interesting Nitrouz..
Would you care to elaborate?
Perhaps you've already done so, but I haven't seen any comments from you comparing your R to the v4
It's not easy to explain as it's emotional... I compare it to cars I've owned. It's like the Nissan GTR to the Porsche 993 Turbo. The porsche is one of those cars that hint to you when it doesn't like what you're doing, and will punish you hard if you keep going. The GTR is when you can do anything you want and the GTR just says "ok no problem". You don't need to build the relationship... It's ok with whatever you tell it to do. But the porsche... You need to understand each other to make it rewarding... That's the 1199R. I'd never trade it for a 1299 or a panigale R because the feedback isn't the same. Imo the 1199R and 1199 superleggera are the last of the full feedback bikes from ducati.

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Funny because the current Camaro ZL1 1LE will demolish both of those has-beens (on a roadcourse or anywhere else), but won't get any credit from the "elites" because it's a Camaro

I hate the looks of the 996 - just terrible - I would only consider a 997
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Funny because the current Camaro ZL1 1LE will demolish both of those has-beens (on a roadcourse or anywhere else), but won't get any credit from the 'elites" because it's a Camaro
I can't comment on the zl1 as I've never driven one. But when I was younger I remember always wanting the latest and greatest. As I age I want what feels better to me, understanding that I'll never be the fastest. I've owned a 1800hp twin turbo lamborghini but I much prefer the standard f430 manual.

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Funny because the current Camaro ZL1 1LE will demolish both of those has-beens (on a roadcourse or anywhere else), but won't get any credit from the "elites" because it's a Camaro

I hate the looks of the 996 - just terrible - I would only consider a 997
Sorry I meant 993 turbo. I'm a few whiskeys in and got my numbers confused. The only 996 I'd even consider is the c4s. But yes... 993 turbo.

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Originally Posted by Nitrouz View Post
It's not easy to explain as it's emotional... I compare it to cars I've owned. It's like the Nissan GTR to the Porsche 996 Turbo. The porsche is one of those cars that hint to you when it doesn't like what you're doing, and will punish you hard if you keep going. The GTR is when you can do anything you want and the GTR just says "ok no problem". You don't need to build the relationship... It's ok with whatever you tell it to do. But the porsche... You need to understand each other to make it rewarding... That's the 1199R. I'd never trade it for a 1299 or a panigale R because the feedback isn't the same. Imo the 1199R and 1199 superleggera are the last of the full feedback bikes from ducati.

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993!!! NOT 996!!! lol

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