Finally Rode The V4 - Page 2

AmpForE · May 14th 2018, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by ultra300x

There is a new S1000RR coming next year, I bet you will be tempted

I never noticed significant vibration on my 1299 and the quick shifter is ultra slick - then again I change the oil fanatically and only use Castrol Power One 10W-50

All the talk about "smooth this or that" still doesn't move me, the 1299 has stump pulling torque and that's why I ride it, I can't see going back to the a screaming four on the street, even though I loved the old S1000RR and ZX-10R at that time.

On track I have no doubt the V-4 is better and faster, but the 1299 is a peerless streetbike. The heat doesn't bother me as long as I'm moving. Keep the radiator FULL, that helps a little

No Sir, I will NOT be tempted. The others will follow BMW’s lead if they add these features.

I owned a 2010 BMW S1000RR (Purchased May of 2010) and it literally put my hand asleep in 15 minutes.

After that bike I swore off inline 4’s. Perhaps it’s just me, but when I bought the RSV4 after it was the best decision I had ever made. Was it slower, yup! But it was smooth and even carrying the extra 10-15 pounds, it turned better than the BMW.

The motorcycle industry shrank for a reason, innovation was stagnate. Prior to BMW, sportbike riders would not buy a bike with ABS, despite all the data that said it saved people from crashing, especially the average to novice rider. The 09 CBR1000RR was an abject failure.

My next motorcycle will be a V4 period. If Ducati will not add the newer features Aprilia will.

ultra300x · May 14th 2018, 08:33 PM

You seem extremely sensitive to vibration. I've ridden inline 4s for over 30 years and never noticed it (significantly) with any of them, aside from maybe the 1986 GSXR1100 (still an icon in my book, the first true race replica street bike). Oh, and to the people who bitch about the heat on the 1299, go ride that bike!

Want smooth? Ride in a Tesla (or maybe a rotary), this is motorcycling, I love the feeling of a motor alive. The 1299 is a BEAST

ghostdog6 · May 14th 2018, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by ultra300x

There is a new S1000RR coming next year, I bet you will be tempted

I never noticed significant vibration on my 1299 and the quick shifter is ultra slick - then again I change the oil fanatically and only use Castrol Power One 10W-50

All the talk about "smooth this or that" still doesn't move me, the 1299 has stump pulling torque and that's why I ride it, I can't see going back to the a screaming four on the street, even though I loved the old S1000RR and ZX-10R at that time.

On track I have no doubt the V-4 is better and faster, but the 1299 is a peerless streetbike. The heat doesn't bother me as long as I'm moving. Keep the radiator FULL, that helps a little

Torque is a function of displacement. The V4 is still 1100cc, it will still have plenty of torque.

gnance · May 14th 2018, 09:29 PM

Worst handlebar vibes I've had was on a 2010 mv agusta f4. These little micro vibes that made your hand numb in 10 min...made me hate that bike.

AmpForE · May 14th 2018, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by gnance

Worst handlebar vibes I've had was on a 2010 mv agusta f4. These little micro vibes that made your hand numb in 10 min...made me hate that bike.

I’ve read about the MV. When the shootout riders complain about vibration you know it’s a problem. Lol.

Originally Posted by ultra300x

You seem extremely sensitive to vibration. I've ridden inline 4s for over 30 years and never noticed it (significantly) with any of them, aside from maybe the 1986 GSXR1100 (still an icon in my book, the first true race replica street bike). Oh, and to the people who bitch about the heat on the 1299, go ride that bike!

Want smooth? Ride in a Tesla (or maybe a rotary), this is motorcycling, I love the feeling of a motor alive. The 1299 is a BEAST

I’ve driven quit a few of the electric offerings and damn it’s a SMOOTH ASS ride, but let’s be serious here, it’s a car. A flat 6 engine that sits behind you is pretty smooth too.

Everybody has their own tolerance level for vibration. Mine is low and yours is high. The S1000RR was probably the worst I’ve owned followed by the Panigale. The difference between the two is the Panigale is harder to kill. The S1000RR was actually quite smooth at 10k RPM and above, but who the hell is up there all the time on the street? Lol The V4 is the right choice for me. I tried the 1299 because I really do like it, I’m just not quite that comfortable on it yet. The comfort seat I added 4 weeks ago was a huge leap forward. I put 1000 miles on the stock and race seat and my ass paid for it.

I’m considering some rearsets. The V4 pegs were noticeably higher and I liked it. I’m on my balls of my feet on the 1299 to raise my knees for grip, hence, adjustable rearsets will likely help with comfort.

Any suggestions as to which ones have the most range of adjustment? I kinda like the Gilles VCR38GT’s because of the range of motion. But I know the woodcrafts are probably the most practical.

ultra300x · May 15th 2018, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by ghostdog6

Torque is a function of displacement. The V4 is still 1100cc, it will still have plenty of torque.

Plenty but not as much

pbarry · May 15th 2018, 07:50 PM

The only thing I will give my old 1299 was the kickstand.

The little bastard on the V4 is a PITA.