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Old Dec 7th 2013, 10:51 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by rocdoc View Post
If I already own an 1199, but want an 899, could I do the following and achieve a similar result?

1. Duct tape of one of the cylinders
2. Plug up one of the headers
3. Seal one of the exhaust cans
4. Go back to the 2012 ECU map

Then I get to keep the single-sided swingarm, TFT dash, and Ohlin shocks.




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I think that will get you a 399
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Old Dec 7th 2013, 11:25 AM   #12
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I think that will get you a 399
Someone is bad at math

That's neither 899/2 nor 1199/2.
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Old Dec 7th 2013, 01:06 PM   #13
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I found that the parts diagram is up in the Ducati DCS system now for the 899, so I've started researching which parts from an 1199 will fit over to the 899 to plan my track bike conversion 899 project. So far I've found these items will bolt right over:

Rearsets
Seats
Clip-Ons (Same as S/R model 1199, 53mm)
Front axle sliders
Engine case sliders
Front fender
Sprocket cover
Bodywork (Same as Standard 1199 model w/non-LED headlight)
Triple-Clamps (Same as S/R model 1199)
Both Left/Right race switches
Bar Ends
Brake/Clutch Levers

I'm HOPING the rear suspension parts will bolt over, but not sure on that until we get a bike here to test-fit. When I saw the bike at the dealer show I tried to use the patented stretched-finger-measuring-gauge to check the rear linkage bolt spacing between the 899 and 1199, and it "looked" the same.

Let me know if you guys have other questions about fitment and I'll see if I can look it up for you.
Jarel,

When you get some time on the 899 would you mind writing a little review of the bike and how it compares to the 1199.

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Old Dec 20th 2013, 09:06 AM   #14
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My 899 just arrived yesterday, so we'll get started tearing it down and answering some of these questions shortly. Up first is fitting the F/P adjustable rear linkage from the 1199 over to the 899, I'm pretty sure it will bolt right on now that I've taken some measurements, we just need to actually bolt it on to confirm for sure. I got the 1199 magnesium 2-piece clutch cover for it, and waiting on the Termi exhaust, the lightweight stator kit and a few other bits to come in.

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Old Dec 20th 2013, 09:08 AM   #15
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I still wanna puke when I look at that swing arm.....
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Old Dec 20th 2013, 09:35 AM   #16
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With a handful of option$, you have an 1199 - do not see the point.
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Old Dec 20th 2013, 11:33 AM   #17
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With a handful of option$, you have an 1199 - do not see the point.
Here's my take: For Ducati Superbike track bikes the past 9 years I've had a 749R, 1098, 848, 1198S, another 848, and an 1199. For my riding style/preferences the 749R and 848's both had something that the 1098/1198S and 1199 did not have. It's not based upon dollars and cents per cubic centimeter, it's about balance and usable power versus being overpowered. If you weren't going to push the bike to the limit on the track it may not be as obvious/important, but having a bike that you can use all of the power on gives you something that you don't get when you're riding around at 1/4 to 1/2 throttle most of the time. Example: I had the data acquisition system hooked up to my 1199 one weekend at Motorsports Park Hastings, and reviewing the data afterward there was less than 2 seconds total in an entire lap where the throttle was wide open. It's easy to think that you can "modulate" the power on the higher-HP bike to achieve the same result as using the full power output of the smaller bike, but in practice it's not that easy at all, at least for us non-professional riders. Having a bike that you can get to full-throttle on and focus on the other aspects of your riding rather than spending such a big portion of your attention in modulating the throttle has big benefits for many riders and they'll go around the track with a quicker lap time on the smaller bike. I also have a Ninja 300 track bike, and on that bike you never even think about the throttle, it's either wide-open or you're on the brakes, there's nothing in between, so you focus all your attention on cornering and you can really rail on it in a way that you could never do on a big bike. Hopefully the 899 has that same "magical" balance that I always found on the other mid-sized Ducati Superbikes. We'll find out, but it's going to be a long 3 1/2 months until our track season starts back up!
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Old Jan 4th 2014, 12:04 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by jarelj View Post
Here's my take: For Ducati Superbike track bikes the past 9 years I've had a 749R, 1098, 848, 1198S, another 848, and an 1199. For my riding style/preferences the 749R and 848's both had something that the 1098/1198S and 1199 did not have. It's not based upon dollars and cents per cubic centimeter, it's about balance and usable power versus being overpowered. If you weren't going to push the bike to the limit on the track it may not be as obvious/important, but having a bike that you can use all of the power on gives you something that you don't get when you're riding around at 1/4 to 1/2 throttle most of the time. Example: I had the data acquisition system hooked up to my 1199 one weekend at Motorsports Park Hastings, and reviewing the data afterward there was less than 2 seconds total in an entire lap where the throttle was wide open. It's easy to think that you can "modulate" the power on the higher-HP bike to achieve the same result as using the full power output of the smaller bike, but in practice it's not that easy at all, at least for us non-professional riders. Having a bike that you can get to full-throttle on and focus on the other aspects of your riding rather than spending such a big portion of your attention in modulating the throttle has big benefits for many riders and they'll go around the track with a quicker lap time on the smaller bike. I also have a Ninja 300 track bike, and on that bike you never even think about the throttle, it's either wide-open or you're on the brakes, there's nothing in between, so you focus all your attention on cornering and you can really rail on it in a way that you could never do on a big bike. Hopefully the 899 has that same "magical" balance that I always found on the other mid-sized Ducati Superbikes. We'll find out, but it's going to be a long 3 1/2 months until our track season starts back up!
Got any progress Pics? My 899 just came in and I'm keeping it in New York for when I am home. My 1199 is staying with me overseas as all the tracks here are real HP tracks. My thinking was the same….the 899 should have useable power and be great on the smaller, more technical tracks of the NE. Your rear suspension work will have very interesting results! Want to hear about them
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Old Jan 6th 2014, 02:37 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by rocdoc View Post
If I already own an 1199, but want an 899, could I do the following and achieve a similar result?

1. Duct tape of one of the cylinders
2. Plug up one of the headers
3. Seal one of the exhaust cans
4. Go back to the 2012 ECU map

Then I get to keep the single-sided swingarm, TFT dash, and Ohlin shocks.




Sorry guys, couldn't resist.
Are you familiar with Wet Mode?
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Old Jan 6th 2014, 04:38 PM   #20
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^^^^ I think there should be a way to rename "Wet Mode" to "899 Mode"
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