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Old Jan 2nd 2019, 09:39 AM   #1
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BrenTuning Panigale 959 Review

Started off rocky due to a map being sent to me that was very rich, I believe for the Termi/UpMap being used as the base map. Probably fine for a slipon, but my bike was bone stock with the exception of a Sprint Air filter that I also got from BrenTune.

The tablet is simple to use. Plug it in to the stock bike, it pulls the OEM programming and saves a copy. You then plug your BrenTune tablet into your PC and download that file to the PC, and email it to them. They send you a list of questions about what mods you run, how you like to ride, what fuel you plan to use and they send you a new map, which you copy to the tablet and then flash the ECU with that.

Benefits are that you can restore the stock map to the bike for warranty work, with Ducati none the wiser. You can also pull diagnostic codes, and clear maintenance minders, rest the TPS, reset Adaptives, etc...

So if you do your own service and oil changes and don't want to have to pay a dealer an hour to turn off a light, you can do it yourself.

Once we got the right map in there, the bike picked up power, about 4hp. Doesn't sound like much, but 4HP for a stock bike is still 4hp. Also, the cooling fans come on at 200 and shut off when the bike gets down to 180, which will make a huge difference when you are sitting in traffic, roasting your boys... There are other tweaks and things pertaining to how the throttle bodies open up, throttle response, etc...

Now, 4hp doesn't sound like much and so I wasn't expecting to feel much of a difference... I was wrong.

It's not like stepping up to an 1199, but you feel a real, tangible difference. The old map makes peak power and while just 4hp less, the motor checks out early and starts losing power before the rev limiter kicks in. The new map, not only gives you a few hundred RPM more rev, but the power STAYS there till it kicks in. It is as that point that you have 7hp more than stock... That extra kick at the top, YOU FEEL.

Now, I would normally take that with a grain of salt and say, "Yeah, but that only really matters on track where you are up in that range anyway"...

Except that my bike, never power wheelied in first until you get up in that 9k or so range, where the throttle bodies opened up and you got into the real power band.

My bike today several times brought the front end up on it's own, around 6k on the tach. It's never done that before, and it did it twice when I was only like 75% throttle. That's something I couldn't deny, that isn't showing on the dyno printout... It's also starting to pick the front end up on it's own in 2nd, which it never did before with my 230lbs plus gear ass on it.

So I am aware of plecebo, this not being my first rodeo... it's like my 24th motorcycle, so I know the drill... haha

But the fact that it now pulls the front end up more often, in places that it never has, tells me there are some good things going on here now...

Before it felt good, but it felt more like a slightly less refined GSX-R750...

Now, it feels more raw, everything feels more... urgent. And there is absolutely more power on tap, delivered quicker. It feels less throttle by wire and more like my older Ducs felt where there was much more of a connection between your right wrist and what happens in the engine department.

I have included the charts, but they don't tell the whole story... not that 7hp more in that top corner isn't a solid gain... but despite the charts saying the midrange power is the same, the front end coming up at only 6k RPM in first tells me that there is more going on than the charts are showing.

At this point, we are really happy with the tune and the performance and I would recommend it. Sure, having a good tuner custom dyno it everywhere in the rev range would be more refined than a "canned" tune... but once we dialed in this map, my tuner looked at the results and was like, "Dude, at this point I would just leave it. I would feel bad charging you if you came to me and asked me to tune this and refine it, because I don't see us really making any big improvements at this point. Just go ride the F out of it..."... haha

So now it is riding like I feel it should have run out of the box, had the government nannies and lawyers not gotten their hands on it first... It picked up usable power, it's far more aggressive and responsive, and I can now do more of my own services on the bike without voiding my warranty...

Props to Chris at BrenTune for working with me to get this dialed in. Very happy now!

I will try and find a way to put the pics here, but the file size restrictions limit me to like the size of a postage stamp. But for now, you can see the attachments at the other forum, here
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Old Jan 3rd 2019, 07:43 AM   #2
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I thought for ecu flashes you mail your ecu and let them know your application ect ect and they flash it and mail it back to you.Sounds like Brentuning does not do that?
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I thought for ecu flashes you mail your ecu and let them know your application ect ect and they flash it and mail it back to you.Sounds like Brentuning does not do that?
Nope. What I liked about BrenTuning was that they send you a little tablet with a touch screen, that you plug into your PC to get maps on and off the tablet, and then it has a cord with a diagnostic plug that plugs into the bike under the passenger seat, that lets you flash it yourself, pull up diag codes, clear them, clear maintenance minders, reset things, etc... You can flash the ECU back to stock yourself in the event that it has to make a trip to the dealer, then flash it back to your custom map, etc...
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Old Jan 4th 2019, 07:22 AM   #4
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Thanks for the awesome and honest review, we really appreciate it and I'm glad that you're enjoying the bike more than ever!

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Old Jan 4th 2019, 08:44 AM   #5
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Chris, glad you chimed in here! I was curious how the handheld unit would work on multiple bikes. I noticed that you support 15+ R1200GS. Would I be able to manage both bikes with just a marginal additional investment?
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Old Jan 6th 2019, 01:22 PM   #6
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Put 150 or so miles on it today. Bike is a lot more fun now. The DTC is working much harder now. I usually have it in race mode, EBC1, DTC2, ABS2... I had to bump DTC down the 3 to keep the front down in 1st and second.

Now, I do have a +3 rear sprocket,because I wanted more drive. Now that I have more power,I am wondering if I should go back to stock...

I love the drive it gives me, but if I have to either back off the throttle in the first couple gears, or have the electronics intervene and cut power... am I any faster?

Hard to tell... the bike is absolutely faster with this tune. The amount that the front comes up in first, and now second, is night and day different. Before in dtc2 I could hammer it in 1st and not much drama... now, it’s drama, yellow lights are flashing, the front comes up, electronics set it back down, then it comes up again, etc...

Thoughts on gearing, now that the power is up?
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The oem config restricts power in the first few gears to prevent this.
Cant remember exactly but 70% rings a bell.
You have probably just removed this and are now having to ride around the issue.
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Originally Posted by 990Glen View Post
The oem config restricts power in the first few gears to prevent this.
Cant remember exactly but 70% rings a bell.
You have probably just removed this and are now having to ride around the issue.
Makes sense. Other bikes do that as well, either with the throttle by wire, or ignition timing being different in the first two gears... seems that I now get full power in the lower gears and thatís what I am fighting.

I will get used to it. I rode an 1198 for a year and it didnít have abs, let alone other rider aids...
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