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Old Dec 3rd 2017, 01:10 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Veteran View Post
When I saw the spy pics of the v4 , I said the same thing........no way is Ducati going to make it that ugly.
Damn was I wrong. The spy pics are the exact bike.
So till I see one or get some test opinions Iíll reserve judgement.
Iím still hope it will look better in the flesh.
But up till now, nobody that has seen it has said wow.

Is the rsv old ? Sure it is. But will the Ducati be a better bike ?
Not saying it wonít, but up till now, the old Aprilia still kicks arse in the superbike community
Having seen one in person now, it is far far nicer than the pictures which do it no favors what so ever.
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Old Dec 3rd 2017, 01:56 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by Val213 View Post
. Ducati v4 386lb dray vs rsv4rf 397lb dry.where u founded 35lb
Have you owned both?

Real RSV4 RF full=468.5 lbs
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Old Dec 3rd 2017, 02:34 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by jpanigale View Post
Have you owned both?

Real RSV4 RF full=468.5 lbs
I still have my 2014 1199s and 16 and 17 Rsv4rf and many more......
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Old Dec 3rd 2017, 03:34 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by Veteran View Post
When I saw the spy pics of the v4 , I said the same thing........no way is Ducati going to make it that ugly.
Damn was I wrong. The spy pics are the exact bike.
So till I see one or get some test opinions Iíll reserve judgement.
Iím still hope it will look better in the flesh.
But up till now, nobody that has seen it has said wow.

Is the rsv old ? Sure it is. But will the Ducati be a better bike ?
Not saying it wonít, but up till now, the old Aprilia still kicks arse in the superbike community
I understand where you're coming from but looks are subjective. Opinions are opinions so they can't be right or wrong. Numbers are facts. Lighter weight, more power, newer tech usually means a better bike. Time will tell.
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Old Dec 3rd 2017, 03:42 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by Val213 View Post
I still have my 2014 1199s and 16 and 17 Rsv4rf and many more......
That's nice...
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Old Dec 3rd 2017, 03:44 PM   #16
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So V4=430 wet and RSV4=468 wet and you inquired into 35 lbs?
No need for quantum physics, fat is fat period
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Old Dec 4th 2017, 05:12 AM   #17
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The RSV4 RF, even with the extra weight, is just as capable as a Panigale R. All you need to do is look at the Superstock 1000 results. The 1299 is a cheater motor and so will the V4 so it's not an apples to apples comparison.

Considering non of us are pro level racers, either bike will work just fine.
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Old Dec 4th 2017, 09:05 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by AmpForE View Post
.....The 1299 is a cheater motor and so will the V4 so it's not an apples to apples comparison....
There is an old saying, "run what you brung and don't blame me if you didn't bring enough".
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Old Dec 4th 2017, 09:59 AM   #19
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There is an old saying, "run what you brung and don't blame me if you didn't bring enough".


Hence, why Ducati started with a 999, hmm, let's go to 1098, oh wait, again not enough, 1198, hmm, the lighter weight is not making up for the lack of power, fuck it, 1299 - 205HP! scratch that, 195 HP and I can't make euro4/5 in current price point and keep up with the power. Let's do a V4, but alas, 1100 cc, gots to keep the power advantage, let the others come up to us.
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asking a Ducati Forum which bike is better you are only going to get one answer likewise you ask the same question on the Ape forum.

I think the Ape is a nice bike and very smooth but it's heavy and IMHO feels a little dated, I expect the latest Duc to crush it in tests and so it should it's the latest greatest and at a very high starting point in $$ terms
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