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Old Dec 28th 2017, 10:58 PM   #11
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no i bought my R for the road and sometimes put it on the track
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the riders!!
hahaha your kidding right?
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Old Dec 29th 2017, 04:22 AM   #13
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Old Dec 29th 2017, 04:22 AM   #14
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Old Dec 29th 2017, 05:21 AM   #15
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It would be nice but Ducati still has to build the minimum streetlegal versions for WSBK homologation.
But Aprilia offers track only versions at good prices. Theres a lot of savings when those street parts are removed.
$1000 headlights, $5000 street fairings etc.
Id rather have those items replaced with exhausts, raceglass, rearsets etc.
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Old Dec 29th 2017, 06:38 AM   #16
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I’m with you there 100%.
Not only do you pay for all that stuff that you are gonna take off and mothball, you
then pay more for bits to replace them.

They could even do cheaper line of carbon stuff for track, where the finish wasnt 100%
showroom quality. Would allow them to sell their “seconds” quite easily. No one would
give a toss about a couple of minor visual faults in track carbon if it was half price.
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Old Dec 29th 2017, 06:47 AM   #17
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Honda does the race packages as well as Aprilia. It would be interesting to know what the actual sales figures on those bikes are. I believe that Jarel mentioned that production on the new V4 is incredibly time consuming, and that dealers would not be able to order as many as they wanted for quite a while. So that right there likely ends that discussion before it even starts.
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Old Dec 29th 2017, 06:47 AM   #18
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I think folks are missing a big issue here. No insurance company is going to insure a track only machine. Im sure a few people pay cash for an R but i certainly had to finance mine(requiring full coverage). I like the security of knowing that if i send it flipping into the kitty litter in pieces that i can claim it and start over. Lowsides you just pay out of pocket to fix. Its almost paid for and when it is Ill need to re-evaluate if the $1200 a year in insurance is worth the cost. So far two years on track with the R and no issues. My last track bike was totalled but only from a woman who ran a red light and tried to make a sandwhich out of me with her suv. I dont ride on the streets at all anymore.


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Old Dec 29th 2017, 07:26 AM   #19
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Very valid point. I guess along those lines, warranties would also be a whole
different ball game.

I guess they will just have to produce track only bikes at realistic prices for a change.
Thats that idea finished then.
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If I had to look into the crystal ball and with the way the new Euro 4 compliance is now a part of the picture.. I would say you are going to see more and more bikes come with a "track kit" that is sold separately and will convert your bike from the docile Euro 4 setup to a fire breathing track weapon.

It's really the only logical way they can get around the emissions/noise regulations. I'd even bet you will start to see "road specs" vs. "track kit" technical specifications being marketed from the manf. Honestly, I'd be on-board with this direction. They just wouldn't ever be able to sell enough track only models at a reasonable price point to justify making a run of them. And, it may turn into a fully warrantied piece of kit from the manf., which could be a win as well.

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