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Old Dec 28th 2017, 04:23 AM   #1
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Who would love to see the “R” be a track only bike?

I know there are only a few of us that solely use our bikes only as track or race bikes, but for those of us that do, wouldn’t it be nice to have a bike straight from the factory that is already completely set up as such. I’m not talking about something like the HP4 Race that SBK spec, but something along the same price of current “R” bikes. Do away with all the extras that require it to be street legal and give us things like race fairings with a belly pan, quick change sprockets, rearsets, etc. I know it’s unlikely it will ever happen because the market is probably not big enough, but it’s a nice thought.
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It is unlikely that they could sell enough track only motorcycles to homologate it for WSBK. Also, I think the rules still say that the WSBK bikes must be based on a street bike available to be purchased and registered.

I don’t know what is the big deal about converting a street bike to a race bike but it would be great if Ducati offered a complete conversion kit that you could order as an option or even ask to be delivered with it installed from the factory.
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Old Dec 28th 2017, 06:18 AM   #3
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The thing is if they did offer an R but minus the road bits, it would be like a Porsche. ‘Here’s your bike it’s like this one but minus these bits, so that’s 10k more’.

I just want a track hack. Two problems. 1) I’m bingo funds. 2)can’t decide if I should get another 675 or go for a thou and risk death at cadwell due to lack of talent! But what a way to go!

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Old Dec 28th 2017, 06:23 AM   #4
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That would be nice, but it's not really something I could ever see them doing since the R is marketed as a race bike for the street.

Sherpa has a great idea though, a track package as a factory option. A possible problem with that though is whether you'd receive a street title, since the bike wouldn't be road legal.
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That would be nice, but it's not really something I could ever see them doing since the R is marketed as a race bike for the street.

Sherpa has a great idea though, a track package as a factory option. A possible problem with that though is whether you'd receive a street title, since the bike wouldn't be road legal.
Well, I thought about that. I used to own a Ferrari Challenge car which is a race car based on a street car. The one I had came with a “Challenge Kit” which converted it to a full race car and also a title. The following year it was available as built from the factory as a race car in which case you received only a bill of sale and no title unless you opted to buy the Challenge package and take delivery of the kit in a box.
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Didn’t KTM offer their big twin as a street bike version AND a version only as a race-only bike, as noted in the original post?
In previous statements made by KTM’s CEO, he stated that their V4, when it comes to market, will be in track-only form. Time will tell what they bring to market and in what form. Regardless, I would be interested in an R track-only bike, taking the money saved from all the road-related gear and government requirements (lights, noise and pollution testing and registration with various authorities) and spending it on better hardware and components.
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Again, I think that this is kind of a moot point because as I mentioned, this is what it says in the current rule book (everyone went and checked out the rules, right?). The bold is my own emphasis.


2.1.1 Motorcycles for the Road Racing Superbike & Supersport World Championships must be motorcycles with a valid road homologation in one of the following areas: USA, EU or Japan.
These motorcycles must be available for sale to the public in the shops and the dealerships representing the manufacturer in at least one of the above areas before the third event of the current Championship to be allowed to be used in the remaining Championship events.

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Like others have noted, Ducati wouldn't sell enough track only models to justify the price. It's not a big deal converting the R into a dedicated race bike. Besides each national series has slightly different rules so making a kit 'one size fits all' wouldn't work.

You could always contact Ducati Corse and they'll build you a dedicated race bike.
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That'd be nice... but so many people wouldn't be able to ride their Track only R to the local Coffee shop!!!


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Old Dec 28th 2017, 01:33 PM   #10
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That'd be nice... but so many people wouldn't be able to ride their Track only R to the local Coffee shop!!!


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Those that own a R and ride to the coffee shop only are pure tossers. Get something else and leave the R's to the riders!!
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