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Old Jan 22nd 2018, 12:25 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by chillo View Post
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I have a deposit on a V4s and I'm wobbling a little about keeping my 1299s a bit longer! eg. 89ft/lb v 105ft/lb etc.

If I had a 1199 it would be no contest! V4 all the way! but I love my 1299s so much! aaaargh
TBH the overriding reason is work/family and not getting as much riding time as Id like. Even if that wasnt the case it would still be a no. In no particular order...

- The majority of my riding is road, I love the twin and torque from the 1299 - especially post tune.
- Aesthetically the V4 doesnt look as good to me. Inevitably the bike is wider but not sure about the tank, flat light covers prone to stone damage and the chain guard reminds me of the cheap and nasty plastic from my 04 R1...
- Nowhere to mount luggage on tail for longer trips, tank would need a work around from current setup.
- Cost to upgrade and the inevitable extras. Dealer said the full Akra is 3,400, plus VAT, plus fitting. Crazy.
- Not a fan of the dash layout. Everyone else seems to like it but I prefer the old one.

None of which will bother the track guys with unlimited budgets! Its clearly a missile & sounds pretty special too. Just too many concessions for me to consider it.
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Old Jan 22nd 2018, 12:55 PM   #22
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Al Fagan from fastbikes/44 teeth has said of video and pics that will be uploaded its going to be sexier than Rachel Riley smothered in oil. Which for you non British types is very very very very good thing.
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Old Jan 22nd 2018, 01:24 PM   #23
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[QUOTE= Al Fagan from fastbikes/44 teeth has said of video and pics that will be uploaded its going to be sexier than Rachel Riley smothered in oil. Which for you non British types is very very very very good thing.[/QUOTE]

Brilliant..
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Old Jan 22nd 2018, 01:40 PM   #24
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2012 the 1199 is the most amazing bike ever to grace the earth. Fast forward a few years and the 1299 is the most amazing bike ever to grace the earth and how awful the 1199.
V4 comes out and is the most amazing bike ever to grace the earth, so much better than that old slow 1299.
Lets face it none of the Jornos are going to say its just ok for fear of not being invited to the 1200cc V4 thats no doubt due in 18 months and yes it will be is the most amazing bike ever to grace the earth and how awful was that 1103cc V4!!

And so the Ferris wheel goes round.
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Old Jan 22nd 2018, 02:00 PM   #25
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Lets face it none of the Jornos are going to say its just ok for fear of not being invited to the 1200cc V4 thats no doubt due in 18 months and yes it will be is the most amazing bike ever to grace the earth and how awful was that 1103cc V4!!
And so the Ferris wheel goes round.
We could use independent research but the problem is the same as always...who's willing to pay for it?

Investment research has been plagued with this issue since the dawn of time. Investment bankers offer free research paid for by investment banking deals raising capital or trading revenues. You can't expect to get deals if you bad-mouth the firms you wish to get hired from. Very hard to find "sell recommendations" in any domestic capital markets.
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Old Jan 22nd 2018, 02:56 PM   #26
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Valia 1:36.84 its too fast.
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Old Jan 22nd 2018, 03:52 PM   #27
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Now all we need is real time data and feedback of the V4S to the 1299S...
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Old Jan 22nd 2018, 06:17 PM   #28
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Originally Posted by Mr C View Post
2012 the 1199 is the most amazing bike ever to grace the earth. Fast forward a few years and the 1299 is the most amazing bike ever to grace the earth and how awful the 1199.
V4 comes out and is the most amazing bike ever to grace the earth, so much better than that old slow 1299.
Lets face it none of the Jornos are going to say its just ok for fear of not being invited to the 1200cc V4 thats no doubt due in 18 months and yes it will be is the most amazing bike ever to grace the earth and how awful was that 1103cc V4!!

And so the Ferris wheel goes round.
I've had all the SBK models since the 996 and can say without monetary incentives they are progressively getting better with more top end and better handling. I agree you can't always go by what the scribes say but I would say even without riding or seeing one yet that the V4 will be improved over the previous, just as the 1299 over the 1199.
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Old Jan 23rd 2018, 12:01 AM   #29
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Valia 1:36.84 its too fast.
Fastest race lap in Moto GP for 2017 was a 131.5. I read somewhere that Ducati launched it in Valencia to highlight the handling qualities rather than grunt from the V4.
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1:34.1 maxi scheib pole and 1:35.2 carmelo morales 2 in the last race in the Spanish championship CEV.
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