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Old Feb 2nd 2018, 12:08 PM   #11
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Not that anyone gives a crap about my opinion, but here it is nonetheless.
Super stock should be a std bike with pipe and tires and brake pads changes allowed. Period.
Superbike should be a std bike with lots of suspension and brake changes allowed. Engine standard internals. Ecu airbox etc can be modded. Frame standard.
Above will reveal how good a bike really is.
At the moment, what WSB offers is a bike so far from what we could ever build .
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Old Feb 2nd 2018, 12:09 PM   #12
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And keep moto gp as the anything goes class.
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Old Feb 2nd 2018, 01:13 PM   #13
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Can someone walk me through the "changes" Ducati made in power measurement? My understanding is claimed numbers dropped, which would indicate a transition from measurement at the crank (engine dyno) to measurement at the wheel. (chassis dyno)

This makes no logical sense, as almost all manufacturers are known for claiming numbers at the crank, and its also the most accurate form of measurement despite those numbers being inflated against what we see in real world applications. Yet an article from Visordown claims the opposite, stating...

"Ducati has used chassis dynos to get its advertised performance figures, while homologation requires the use of an engine dyno – in updating its claims the firm’s bikes have become ‘less powerful’ on paper."


Even if that were true, the numbers would have gone up from lack of parasitic loss in the drivetrain, not down.

Please explain.

Link for aforementioned article if you missed the hyperlink.
Ducati lowers power claims | Visordown
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Old Feb 3rd 2018, 02:27 AM   #14
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The most powerful and fastest bike MCN has ever tested...

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/...2018-revealed/
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Originally Posted by DucSyd View Post
The most powerful and fastest bike MCN has ever tested...

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/...2018-revealed/

Hits the rev limiter in 6th gear still pulling at 192mph..........
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Old Feb 3rd 2018, 06:12 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by DucSyd View Post
The most powerful and fastest bike MCN has ever tested...

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Um.....what about the H2?
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Um.....what about the H2?
Not a sportbike, different class to compare to. Just like the guy with the stretched-swingarm 'Busa who wants to talk about his bike in crowd of track day guys. Awkward to tell him that no one cares how fast his bike is in a straight line.
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Um.....what about the H2?
A few years ago I had the opportunity to test against a H2 on track with my then zx10. Starangelly the zx had legs on the h2 on the straights.

Quite frankly I think the v4 will be considerably faster than a h2 even in a straight line. Power to weight the v4 is far superior I think.
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Old Feb 3rd 2018, 06:45 AM   #19
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Hey don't get me wrong, I love Ducati. It's just my funny how year to year the magazines contradict themselves when a new model comes out. I still think they are paid off or sing accolades as to not jeopardize not being invited to testiing next year. I'm sure the new v4 is a rocket, but I'd say the h2 is a sport bike also.
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A few years ago I had the opportunity to test against a H2 on track with my then zx10. Starangelly the zx had legs on the h2 on the straights.

Quite frankly I think the v4 will be considerably faster than a h2 even in a straight line. Power to weight the v4 is far superior I think.
Did it have the USA restrictions though?
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