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Old Feb 22nd 2018, 02:09 PM   #11
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Guys,

Ducati wouldn’t do it if there were not buyers falling over themselves to buy one!

I know I have a Speciale on order, paid a deposit and have had 3 calls from the dealer to keep asking about my commitment as they have other buyers who want one but the allocation is full.

I can drop back to an S at any time if I wanted to.

Everyone has a choice, no one is forcing me to buy the Speciale.

I am a rider not a collector, so not interested in any potential future gain ( if that even happens) I pity those guys who buy them as “ investments” and take up allocations from those that actually want to ride their bikes.

As for the R, I want a road bike not a track or race bike, so not interested in the R models.
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Old Feb 22nd 2018, 02:40 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by DucSyd View Post
Guys,

Ducati wouldn’t do it if there were not buyers falling over themselves to buy one!

I know I have a Speciale on order, paid a deposit and have had 3 calls from the dealer to keep asking about my commitment as they have other buyers who want one but the allocation is full.

I can drop back to an S at any time if I wanted to.

Everyone has a choice, no one is forcing me to buy the Speciale.

I am a rider not a collector, so not interested in any potential future gain ( if that even happens) I pity those guys who buy them as “ investments” and take up allocations from those that actually want to ride their bikes.

As for the R, I want a road bike not a track or race bike, so not interested in the R models.
Just out of interest DucSyd, do you mind sharing what they are charging for the Speciale here in Aus?
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Old Feb 22nd 2018, 02:51 PM   #13
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AUD $59,990 plus ORC plus I ordered the gold mag wheels option at an extra $5,000
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Old Feb 22nd 2018, 04:52 PM   #14
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Speciale is nice but none of these bikes are an investment the SL included, just buy what you like and what floats your boat.

we can all be very cynical about these so called limited edition bikes but it's cool to see some change in the lineup and a good option for those that don't want the hassle of buying aftermarket parts and getting them installed etc just don't think you can buy one of these and flip it for a few $$ or that it will retain it's value as you are in for a wake up call when it comes to resale.
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Old Feb 22nd 2018, 05:30 PM   #15
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I'd wait on the R before I shelled out basically R money for the Speciale.
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Old Feb 22nd 2018, 07:53 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by BTrain5489 View Post
I'd wait on the R before I shelled out basically R money for the Speciale.
Agree, but the R is a homologation 1000cc and won’t have the bottom end of the 1100 , which is a pity.
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MV have been limited runs for a long while, as you say they’ve lost their shine.

Aside from a number there’s nothing on the Speciale that you can’t get from a parts catalog and a wrap/paint job. The R will be the one to have but I can’t help feeling that I’m now priced out of that one. Rumour has it there will be a price cap increase coming for 2019 WSBK
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Old Feb 23rd 2018, 12:01 AM   #18
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There already is a price cap, in place, it is €40,000 for a road going bike.

A big change for 2018 is that all factory additional parts will have a capped price, and must be available to any team that wants to buy them, so no factory unobtainable parts for the factory teams. Although Ducati has been operating under restrictions since they got the go ahead to have 1200cc twin.

Other big change will be the rev limiting rules, now that is going to be interesting.

All very complicated, best Ducati go to. A4 cylinder so at least the complicated rules can be across an even playing field.
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Old Feb 23rd 2018, 12:07 AM   #19
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I'd wait on the R before I shelled out basically R money for the Speciale.
My thoughts as well, is like I know they have to account for inflation and cost of technology but, bumping these prices up on especially the Speciale which is basically a Tri Colore is ridiculous. That means the R will be about $45-$46k and if it gets the Mag wheels option you looking at $49K USD.
Quite frankly at $45K for the V4R I'd buy a used 1199SL (Ive seen for sale in mid forties). Now that's bang for the buck!!!

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Agree, but the R is a homologation 1000cc and won’t have the bottom end of the 1100 , which is a pity.
Ehhh I think it's kinda premature to say that it won't have the bottom end as the 1100. I'm sure they'll find a way or already have a way but saving it for the production R.
Surely the WSBK V4R won't suffer a lack of low end !!!
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Old Feb 23rd 2018, 04:34 AM   #20
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Ducatis are all special whether it is a base, S, Speciale, R, SL, Desmo or a HyperScrambleMultiMonster. You get my point. Who cares if the base buyer bought his bike to race and doesn't want the e-suspension or the S buyer wants to pose or it's another buyer's intro into the brand? To each his/her own.
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