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Old Apr 21st 2018, 04:43 PM   #41
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It’s just conjecture, but yeah it would be reasonable to expect a scale that was built 15 years ago and never calibrated to be off by 10% of the total weight

It’s also entirely possible that the scale used was perfectly accurate. The point that I am trying to make is that you can not trust the scale unless you verify it’s accuracy. A 10% error wouldn’t even be what I would consider to be a bad error.
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Old Apr 21st 2018, 06:49 PM   #42
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Itís just conjecture, but yeah it would be reasonable to expect a scale that was built 15 years ago and never calibrated to be off by 10% of the total weight

Itís also entirely possible that the scale used was perfectly accurate. The point that I am trying to make is that you can not trust the scale unless you verify itís accuracy. A 10% error wouldnít even be what I would consider to be a bad error.
Well, I'd like to get a confirmation on the weight. $27K reasons why it matters (IMO).
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Old Apr 21st 2018, 07:19 PM   #43
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This is literally one random individual on the internet posting this information, with no prior posts at that. Having seen the bike in person, I'd tend to lean more towards manufacturer claims until multiple sources verify otherwise.

No offense meant to the op if this turns out to be legit, just doing due diligence here.
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Old Apr 22nd 2018, 01:53 AM   #44
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Ducati are the masters of marketing and have always botched figures to make the new better than the old.

I own a 2015 R that was 205 bhp when I bought it, even stated in the brochure. The 1299 R FE is released and miraculously they changed their method of measurement so that my bike was the lesser machine when compared on a power to weight basis. Although even now it is only very marginal that the FE comes out on top.

So what did you expect with the V4? When the V4 was unveiled Ducati published about 3/4 different power claims in 3 different units of measurement so good luck with ever getting a real comparison as I'm sure the weight is the same guesswork.

Ducati also used to have a previous models archive so you could go and run a comparison. When they changed measurement methods they even went back through and revised the older generation bikes lowering them. Oddly enough this archive is no longer available at all, or at least I can no longer access it.
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Old Apr 22nd 2018, 03:59 AM   #45
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Ducati also used to have a previous models archive so you could go and run a comparison. When they changed measurement methods they even went back through and revised the older generation bikes lowering them. Oddly enough this archive is no longer available at all, or at least I can no longer access it.
This is just like the book "1984". The main character worked in the "Ministry of truth". His job was to re write historical archives so that it matched whatever the government was claiming at the time.
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This is just like the book "1984". The main character worked in the "Ministry of truth". His job was to re write historical archives so that it matched whatever the government was claiming at the time.
the same thing that British historians have been doing for the last 400 years. :RE:RE
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This is just like the book "1984". The main character worked in the "Ministry of truth". His job was to re write historical archives so that it matched whatever the government was claiming at the time.
This says more about modern consumers than anything else. Its nothing but a dick waving contest.
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Originally Posted by F3BobaFett View Post
This says more about modern consumers than anything else. Its nothing but a dick waving contest.
Bragging rights down the pub

My point was more about the numbers, their accuracy and the fact they don't mean much. Also a lot of spec's often read *claimed etc.

But what annoyed me was that bhp was a major selling point for the bike, written in the brochure, up in lights, paid top dollar and two years later it's like "Nah mate, that's not actually what we sold you".

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Just watched a V4 dyno run by the owner on YT, & it put out ~205 HP, so not too far off the claimed mark as far as engine output is concerned. Think he has ~1K mi on the ODO.

Still want to see an independent scale (wet) weight.
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Its nothing but a dick waving contest.
Would be nice to be able to wave it around

Sorry but on a serious note, how much does it weigh? anyone know?
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