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Old Aug 30th 2018, 05:38 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by thorny View Post

I hear that it is super easy to bleed. Place a rag over bleeder (do not spill any brake fluid anywhere ), pull the lever in, crack the bleeder and close it, release clutch. That should release the air. I havenít tried it yet, but I bleed brakes without problems and it is pretty much what you do.
i just want to chime in here and remind everyone especially those of us who consider ourselves novices and less mechanically inclined, this is a really easy process and it only takes a few minutes if you follow the simple instructions. you don't need a degree and you don't need prior experience or a fantastic workshop with fancy tools. just a few simple tools and the results are amazing if air is your issue.

of course, if you have a nearby dealership and you have other important mechanical concerns and you have a good warranty, you may choose to never touch your bike except for to ride it and let others look at your bike's problems; that's ok because we paid alot for these bikes. but don't be afraid to bleed the clutch which is actually easier than wiping down your bike. the only thing you need to worry about is never overtighten and never let the fluid spill on your bike. if you want to place a small clear hose over the bleeder nipple, you can almost certainly prevent any accidental spills. i stripped mine from careless overuse and i ultimately replaced it with a "speed bleeder" and i haven't looked back. this forum and the internet (yt) is your best friend.
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Old Aug 30th 2018, 05:44 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by NG01 View Post
Got the bike towed to dealer as we speak and yes, definitely clutch problem as the clutch is extremely low, 1st 3 quarter is like a free play..... i will let the dealer fix it and if same problems arise again in the future after more track day, they better have solution for it.
I had dealer flush mine with Motul 660 just so that it definitely not the fluid problem. I suggest doing that, but most likely these are weaknesses in slave and/or master cylinders as others pointed out. Track shakes out weaknesses immediately..
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Old Aug 30th 2018, 05:47 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by kensteele View Post
i just want to chime in here and remind everyone especially those of us who consider ourselves novices and less mechanically inclined, this is a really easy process and it only takes a few minutes if you follow the simple instructions. you don't need a degree and you don't need prior experience or a fantastic workshop with fancy tools. just a few simple tools and the results are amazing if air is your issue.

of course, if you have a nearby dealership and you have other important mechanical concerns and you have a good warranty, you may choose to never touch your bike except for to ride it and let others look at your bike's problems; that's ok because we paid alot for these bikes. but don't be afraid to bleed the clutch which is actually easier than wiping down your bike. the only thing you need to worry about is never overtighten and never let the fluid spill on your bike. if you want to place a small clear hose over the bleeder nipple, you can almost certainly prevent any accidental spills. i stripped mine from careless overuse and i ultimately replaced it with a "speed bleeder" and i haven't looked back. this forum and the internet (yt) is your best friend.
Agree. I do use clear hose and coke bottle when doing the brakes.
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Old Sep 2nd 2018, 05:08 PM   #24
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Where did you find the aftermarket slave?
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Old Sep 3rd 2018, 09:39 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by thorny View Post
I had dealer flush mine with Motul 660 just so that it definitely not the fluid problem. I suggest doing that, but most likely these are weaknesses in slave and/or master cylinders as others pointed out. Track shakes out weaknesses immediately..


My clutch used to go soft and needed bled every track weekend... but I too started using Motul 660 and no more issues.


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Old Sep 3rd 2018, 11:58 AM   #26
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I suspect that part of the problem lies in the clutch reservoir. I described it here:
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Something to consider.
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Old Sep 4th 2018, 10:11 AM   #27
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Originally Posted by maslov View Post
My clutch used to go soft and needed bled every track weekend... but I too started using Motul 660 and no more issues.


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That is reassuring. I will report how mine behaves next month.
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Old Sep 6th 2018, 07:54 AM   #28
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Got a call from dealer today, mine was affected by the recall problem, clutch master cylinder and the brembo recall thingy as well. getting both fix and should be able to pick the bike up early next week. Funny how i ran my Vin # into the recall search page and nothing come up....
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Old Sep 6th 2018, 06:03 PM   #29
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My clutch was going soft fairly quickly and needed to be bled every couple hundred miles. I had the recall done and took it to the track shortly after. It's been about 300 miles since then and it hasn't softened as far as I can tell.
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Old Sep 9th 2018, 06:08 AM   #30
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11mm wrench - paper towel - pull in the lever, crack open the bleeder, close bleeder quickly - less than 30 seconds.....clean the brake fluid out of the bleeder with a coiled up pc of paper towel...total time 1 minute....you're done

i do this before each ride...have been, since 916/996 days

no slave or master cylinder has ever solved it.....although i haven't tried any of the newer aftermarket parts
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