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Old Sep 2nd 2018, 12:16 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by AmpForE View Post
Bullshit!

They also have world class engineers at Ducati, and itís unfathomable they can not design something that vents 150 degree heat away from the rider. All it takes is a few well placed heat barriers and proper venting.
Exactly. Heat generated at a given load is directly proportional to the power output at that point, considering a race engine would have a cooling system dimensioned for extremes theres no reason for the v4 generating more heat while goimg at low revs . Shielding and channelling is just no good. Its too tight in there trapping air at low speed. Have seen the aftermarket heat shields but sceptic. In principle its sound bit its so tight under the seat and behind the fairing that adding even those thin sheets migh restrict flow, just making a new problem. Btw. Thermal properties of CF doesnt gibe an advantage over typ. Plastics used so wont make any difference unless designed differently e.g with increased distance from the heat source, insulated and with radiation shield. Keepimg the tank full helps a lot an the seat temp. Btw.
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Old Sep 2nd 2018, 12:52 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by AmpForE View Post
Bullshit!

They also have world class engineers at Ducati, and it’s unfathomable they can not design something that vents 150 degree heat away from the rider. All it takes is a few well placed heat barriers and proper venting.
Originally Posted by 1199Tricolore View Post
Saying the heat is caused by performance is a poor excuse.

Try the RSV4. 205hp v4 and no heat, not even in 100+ weather !

Shame that Ducati can't do the same...
Perhaps the extra 10kg the RSV4 has over the Ducati is this heat shielding that you speak of?

This is the trade off.
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Old Sep 2nd 2018, 01:50 PM   #23
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That and a full perimeter frame which can act as a huge heat sink.
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Old Sep 2nd 2018, 08:26 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by Mutt1979 View Post
What? 600cc vs an 1100cc of course the bigger bike uses more so yes, bigger displacement, more fuel, V4 more cylinders, more bangs per revolution.... look at the catalogue, less mpg, so yes, definitely more fuel consumption!

And if you're putting along at 25, well then there is your heat issue....
Of course 600cc. Why would you compare a 600cc bike out of the blue? I am referring to other 1000cc bikes..
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Old Sep 2nd 2018, 11:45 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by 990Glen View Post
That and a full perimeter frame which can act as a huge heat sink.
That's probably the main thing. Ducati's of old were also known for heat when they had the trellis frame.

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Of course 600cc. Why would you compare a 600cc bike out of the blue? I am referring to other 1000cc bikes..
Okay, my bad. But even so, we've also been down this road before on the forum and if you believe that Ducati is the only machine making heat then you are sadly mistaken.

https://www.s1000rrforum.com/forum/b...eat-issue.html

My S1000Rr Is Hotter Than Yours (Like Literally, It Runs Hot) - Tech/Tires/Tuning - Cornering Forum

Or Aprillia

https://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/...4-Heat-Problem

Heat on RSV4R

The forums of other manufacturers are littered with similar threads
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Old Sep 2nd 2018, 11:46 PM   #26
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Yeah, i remember my 2008 cbr 1000 didn't have the issue but my 2006 r1 sure ran hot. I just wish we could have our cake and eat it too.
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Old Sep 2nd 2018, 11:55 PM   #27
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I just think it's where we're at with bikes and technology now. We are so close to owning what is essentially a full blown race machine. You try telling me a WSBK doesn't get hot or it's suitable to run down the shops on.
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Old Sep 3rd 2018, 12:43 AM   #28
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I think that the emission control stuff also has a lot to answer for, as the bikes can't get
the heat straight out of the exh the way they used to. Even KTM had a lot of complaints
about riders suffering heat on the adventure range, and started making small plastic
deflectors for the frame just next to the edge of the saddle as a band aid for the symptom.
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Old Sep 3rd 2018, 01:20 AM   #29
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Hey Glen . I have a KTM 1290 R and never has the heat bothered me . The Panigale doesnít either .
Weird hey
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Old Sep 3rd 2018, 01:28 AM   #30
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I'm the same mate. Have a 1090R and the pani. Heat has never crossed my mind,
though euro climates aren't that extreme compared to some.
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