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Old Oct 15th 2018, 11:49 AM   #1
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Wheel speed sensor issue? Possibly tire size change related?

My v4 has 1500 miles on it and I've done 3 trackday weekends on it without issues.

Yesterday, during a cruise around town, three times I ran into an issue where suddenly bike showed following errors all at once:

- ABS
- DES (Dynamic Suspension)
- DSC
- Check engine light

On top of that speedometer changed to flashing --- and quick shifter would stop working.

I stopped and turn the bike off. I instantly thought of wheel speed sensor issues and checked all the wires running to front and rear sensor - seemed ok. Started bike back, and all errors were gone.

Same thing happened 3 times .. 20..30 mins apart. Each time I only noticed this issue when I could not downshift using quick shifter coming into a corner.

I'll be taking it to the dealer this week for diag, but was curious if any of you experienced the same.

Finally, I am not sure if this is a coincidence, but I've just changed my tires from Supercorsa SP V3 to Dunalop Q4s. New rear is 200/55. I've ran the calibration procedure before my ride and it completed OK.
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Old Oct 15th 2018, 12:05 PM   #2
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It must be something else : I never had such issues with other tire sizes. Wether calibration is done or not.
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Old Oct 15th 2018, 01:44 PM   #3
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I had the same thing except engine status was ok and I could use the shifter up and down following a gravel pit excursion on the racetrack last week-end. Was most likely due to the rear wheel spinning on the gravel to get out of it.

Switch off and on reset everything back to normal.

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Old Oct 15th 2018, 06:07 PM   #4
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speed sensor recall

I was just at the dealer last weekend getting tires and they said there was a brand new "speed sensor recall." Rear wheel I think. I had no symptoms and the recall was so new that they didn't have info, so we'll do it next time, but perhaps this is your cause?

And possibly related, I did a burnout drag racing with DTC set to 1 and my dash lit up with every conceivable error, haha. I think a bad speed senor (or unexpected values) will throw the errors you got.
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sounds familiar..

sounds exactly what happened to me.. find this title in this forum..

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Old Oct 16th 2018, 03:59 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by jbraslins View Post
My v4 has 1500 miles on it and I've done 3 trackday weekends on it without issues.

Yesterday, during a cruise around town, three times I ran into an issue where suddenly bike showed following errors all at once:

- ABS
- DES (Dynamic Suspension)
- DSC
- Check engine light

On top of that speedometer changed to flashing --- and quick shifter would stop working.

I stopped and turn the bike off. I instantly thought of wheel speed sensor issues and checked all the wires running to front and rear sensor - seemed ok. Started bike back, and all errors were gone.

Same thing happened 3 times .. 20..30 mins apart. Each time I only noticed this issue when I could not downshift using quick shifter coming into a corner.

I'll be taking it to the dealer this week for diag, but was curious if any of you experienced the same.

Finally, I am not sure if this is a coincidence, but I've just changed my tires from Supercorsa SP V3 to Dunalop Q4s. New rear is 200/55. I've ran the calibration procedure before my ride and it completed OK.
Just had the exact same issue this w-e at Barber !
Taking It to the dealer too ... let’s see if they diagnose the same 👍
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Old Oct 16th 2018, 07:17 PM   #7
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I had my bulletin/recall already done. The inspect the line for damage. If it's damaged, they replace the cable (and the sensor?). Otherwise they reroute the cable with new clips.
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Old Oct 22nd 2018, 05:38 AM   #8
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So tech said bike had several soft rear wheel speed sensor faults. They reset those for now and ordered recall parts.

Tech said that if it's soft errors, they assume signal interference and use new clips to re-route the cables. But leave original speed sensor in place.

If hard errors, they replace the sensor and re-route the cables.

What really amazes me is that I had this happen half a year / 1700 miles into bike ownership, exactly at the same time as the recall came out ....

P.S. Q4s rock on the street. Maybe it's in my head, but they seem to turn in a lot quicker, surprised me at first. Can't wait to test them @ VIR on 29th.
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Just sell me the bike, it is broken

Originally Posted by jbraslins View Post
So tech said bike had several soft rear wheel speed sensor faults. They reset those for now and ordered recall parts.

Tech said that if it's soft errors, they assume signal interference and use new clips to re-route the cables. But leave original speed sensor in place.

If hard errors, they replace the sensor and re-route the cables.

What really amazes me is that I had this happen half a year / 1700 miles into bike ownership, exactly at the same time as the recall came out ....

P.S. Q4s rock on the street. Maybe it's in my head, but they seem to turn in a lot quicker, surprised me at first. Can't wait to test them @ VIR on 29th.
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Old Oct 30th 2018, 06:32 AM   #10
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So here's a video of it happening again @ race track

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