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Old Dec 3rd 2018, 05:26 PM   #11
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Old Dec 4th 2018, 12:02 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by topolino View Post
Alessandro Valia was within 4 seconds of Chaz Davies time on a bone stock V4R with road tyres.
That only shows how slow Chaz's time was... What was the gap to JR? Anyway, we are talking test times and should not compare V4R in road trim with a test rider to V4R WSBK spec with WSBK rider.
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That only shows how slow Chaz's time was... What was the gap to JR? Anyway, we are talking test times and should not compare V4R in road trim with a test rider to V4R WSBK spec with WSBK rider.
The point I was illustrating was that regardless of the event (bear in mind this was ostensibly the official press launch for the V4R and not a WSBK test as that was at Aragon last month), for a road bike to be within 4 seconds of a WSBK version of the same machine (albeit with a faster rider and a lot more power available) is still remarkable. If you remember back to the launch of the V4, Valia was only a few seconds off Jorge Lorenzo's lap record on an S model. He is not exactly slow. If you want to know, Davies was 1.5 seconds slower than Rea at Aragon, but the R is still in development and shakedown testing, so this gap will doubtless reduce.
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I think Alvaro Bautista will finish ahead of Davies consistently and prove that ducati has been wasting its time on the Chaz. I think the past Ducati was a better bike than the Kawasaki , but IMO Johhny Rea is a friggin god compared to the rest of the field

thats just my opinion . so hold back the redass
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JR does seem like he is on a Sunday ride lol. I think Chaz is good and hoping that both he and Alvaro do well next season. It would be great to see some close racing.
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Originally Posted by Snk1199 View Post
That only shows how slow Chaz's time was... What was the gap to JR? Anyway, we are talking test times and should not compare V4R in road trim with a test rider to V4R WSBK spec with WSBK rider.
Here were the final test times:

No Rider Bike Fastest Diff
1 Jonathan Rea Kawasaki ZX-10R 01:38.7
22 Alex Lowes Yamaha YZF-R1M 01:39.4 0.664
91 Leon Haslam Kawasaki ZX-10R 01:39.8 1.053
19 Alvaro Bautista Ducati Panigale V4R 01:39.8 1.132
7 Chaz Davies Ducati Panigale V4R 01:39.9 1.139
60 Michael vd Mark Yamaha YZF-R1M 01:40.1 1.379
33 Marco Melandri Yamaha YZF-R1M 01:40.2 1.522
11 Sandro Cortese Yamaha YZF-R1M 01:40.6 1.879


I would imagine this looks pretty good to the Ducati Corse team to be 1 sec. off the best-sorted bike on the grid, with both riders. And the test rider on a street bike running 4 secs slower than the factory riders on their test bikes isn't bad.
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In fact, I was familiar with the lap times 😉 The point I wanted to make was that testing will not necessarily reveal full potential. For what it is worth last year Sykes did almost identical lap to Reaís this year. And honestly, a 4 sec gap between WSBK no 1 (4 years now) and a test rider on a road bike sounds too good to be realistic. Donít get me wrong, I keep my fingers crossed for Ducati! But I donít see much more to be optimistic based on end of season test resilts than in any previous years. Forza Ducati!
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