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Old Dec 17th 2018, 04:23 AM   #61
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Oh why am I even posting an opinion? Maybe its the masochist in me. But hey here it goes during my morning coffee.

Wings, Ailerons, Air Foils what ever your take on them. It can be an interesting topic on anything having to do with racing and not an airplane.

These devices on F1, for the most part destroyed my one beloved sport. Take those away and bring back the big tires and beautiful cars. They have removed the racer and now put the engineer at the forefront of the car being competitive.

A bike with these devices, seems like a Pandora box that should have never been opened. Yes, of course they are going to make a difference but we are talking about some of the most talented riders in the world that could not decide if they brought more benefit than hindrance to the sport. And now we have 3 manufactures putting them on our street bikes. I am all for new tech and feel that for the most part it has moved the sport forward. But these wings... I really think they should have stayed on birds, planes and rockets and let us racers race and leave the wing aerodynamicist out of our sport.

Now where exactly did I put my flame suit? I know I left here somewhere.

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Old Dec 17th 2018, 10:04 AM   #62
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i want active aero wings. Only pop out at high speeds.
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Old Dec 18th 2018, 12:04 AM   #63
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Originally Posted by Blade Runner View Post
Oh why am I even posting an opinion? Maybe its the masochist in me. But hey here it goes during my morning coffee.

Wings, Ailerons, Air Foils what ever your take on them. It can be an interesting topic on anything having to do with racing and not an airplane.

These devices on F1, for the most part destroyed my one beloved sport. Take those away and bring back the big tires and beautiful cars. They have removed the racer and now put the engineer at the forefront of the car being competitive.

Bike with these devices seem like a Pandora box that should have never been opened. Yes, of course they are going to make a difference but we are talking about some of the most talented riders in the world that could not decide if they brought more benefit than hindrance to the sport. And now we have 3 manufactures putting them on our street bikes. I am all for new tech and feel that for the most part it has moved the sport forward. But these wings... I really think they should have stayed on birds, planes and rockets and let us racers race and leave the wing aerodynamicist out of our sport.

Now where exactly did I put my flame suit? I know I left here somewhere.

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LOL a more sensible anti-wings comment! No biggie, no flaming! To each of it's own opinion and a mature discussion is always welcomed, especially in contradictory.

The answer to your dilemma or better said grievance comes from the very nature of "competition". Because human kind could not let any kind of competition, and even more so motorsport competition, unregulated, you end up with....rules, what is allowed and what is not. And while that is never ending debate-able, at top level of competition differences can and are in fact made by using or not using a particular tech that's allowed by the rules.

The V4R was designed with WSBK in mind thus they tried to put as much tech on it and innovation so that to not break WSBK rules but at the same time allow for the most competitive advantage.
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Old Dec 18th 2018, 10:39 AM   #64
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Originally Posted by Blade Runner View Post
Oh why am I even posting an opinion? Maybe its the masochist in me. But hey here it goes during my morning coffee.

Wings, Ailerons, Air Foils what ever your take on them. It can be an interesting topic on anything having to do with racing and not an airplane.

These devices on F1, for the most part destroyed my one beloved sport. Take those away and bring back the big tires and beautiful cars. They have removed the racer and now put the engineer at the forefront of the car being competitive.

A bike with these devices, seems like a Pandora box that should have never been opened. Yes, of course they are going to make a difference but we are talking about some of the most talented riders in the world that could not decide if they brought more benefit than hindrance to the sport. And now we have 3 manufactures putting them on our street bikes. I am all for new tech and feel that for the most part it has moved the sport forward. But these wings... I really think they should have stayed on birds, planes and rockets and let us racers race and leave the wing aerodynamicist out of our sport.

Now where exactly did I put my flame suit? I know I left here somewhere.

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I hear you man. F1 is a snoozefest. I download the races and mostly fast forward through them. Qualifying / race start are the most exciting parts of F1.
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Old Dec 23rd 2018, 02:31 AM   #65
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I’d prefer s1000rr headlights than winglets.
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Old Dec 23rd 2018, 05:40 AM   #66
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For the R's that will see the track i would like to know if aftermarket companys like Armour Bodies will have V4R specific track plastics with vents & giving you the option to remove or install the winglets.
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Old Dec 23rd 2018, 08:12 AM   #67
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For the R's that will see the track i would like to know if aftermarket companys like Armour Bodies will have V4R specific track plastics with vents & giving you the option to remove or install the winglets.
I'm in this boat too.

Not so much because of the winglets but for the additional cooling from the R bodywork. I've heard (read) the base/S run a bit warm on track or at least did before the recall.
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Old Dec 23rd 2018, 09:26 AM   #68
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Well i hope they do plus it def looks nice with then with out the vents.Well i guess when the time comes a simple phone call will be able to get info
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Where is the guy from McLaren when you need him back on the forums? Just a few years ago on this website, he was blazing the trail for Ducati.

Between these winglets and the in-boots, we have reached some real aerodynamic successes at legal speeds!
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