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Old Dec 17th 2018, 04:49 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by AndreiD View Post
IMHO it all boils down on how much track you do vs street riding, and also how smooth the roads are.

If you do mostly track riding, having no delay in the throttle is a big win and to my little track experience makes things more manageable, especially on high revs where the bike is more like on/off when the throttle passes the slop point and begins to "bite", so there's less jerking from that.

That being said, if you do more street riding than track riding, and especially the roads are anywhere less than perfect, the slop can help with the minimal jerking from the potholes and the irregular road quality, especially when going off the throttle. If not for that slop, the bike would get immediately throttle input from that minimal jerking.

That's why in some sense bike manufacturers claim it to be a safety thing.

Dealer also advises agains the spacers, and before I got my bike, I hopped on a V4 S track bike he had around, and I was surprised the slop was not "fixed" on what clearly was a track only bike.
I've always removed any play I've had in cable throttles as they stretch, even for street use, and just about every person I know that rides has done the same. If you're leaning on your throttle going over pot holes then you've gotta fix your body position. I don't even have throttle play on my dirt bike that sees a lot more than pot holes. The dealer is full of crap. I'd love to see any educated and objective citation anywhere that claims that a bunch of throttle play is in any way safer.

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Old Dec 17th 2018, 06:53 AM   #12
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I've always removed any play I've had in cable throttles as they stretch, even for street use, and just about every person I know that rides has done the same. If you're leaning on your throttle going over pot holes then you've gotta fix your body position. I don't even have throttle play on my dirt bike that sees a lot more than pot holes. The dealer is full of crap. I'd love to see any educated and objective citation anywhere that claims that a bunch of throttle play is in any way safer.

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Then clearly all the manufacturers are stupid frankly!

Anyway, because we are talking about superbikes, and this applies even for street nakeds, the body position makes it so that enough weight rests on the handlebars. Usually this can be somewhat fixed by riding more with the legs (having a tighter grip with the thighs so that the hands take less weight). But never ever enough to have no weight on the hands especially for a superbike position where the steps are so backwards and higher up forcing your torso to sit at an angle. Having no throttle slack and you hit a bump on a back road at 80+mph shit would get squirrelly real quick.

Also, at low speeds when turning the bars to full lock, some peeps can pinch that throttle without intent.
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Have to agree with Darwin here. There isn't much of a reason to have all that slack in your throttle. How you ride and technique make all the difference. If you are depending on that slack/slop to save you from something, you've already lost.

This was one of the first things I did on the 1299 and then on my V4. I also do a fair bit of moto on the dirt bikes and my throttles are always kept with almost no slack.

On the superbikes, I cover the front brake with my index finger. This accomplishes 2 goals:

1. By laying my index finger on top of the front brake lever and pushing downward, I'm able to better modulate throttle input. Keeps the ride smooth and the inputs predictable, which makes for a more precise, controlled and safer ride.

2. By covering the lever, as mentioned above, it massively reduces reaction time in an emergency stop scenario. That 1/4 of a second could be the difference between being IN an accident and avoiding one.

Proper technique is always the way to go.
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Then clearly all the manufacturers are stupid frankly!
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