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Old Mar 26th 2019, 05:46 AM   #11
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You shouldn't be allowed on the internet until you learn the difference to expect between manufacturers quoted crank HP numbers and dyno rwhp numbers.
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Old Mar 26th 2019, 05:56 AM   #12
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You shouldn't be allowed on the internet until you learn the difference to expect between manufacturers quoted crank HP numbers and dyno rwhp numbers.
I purposely quoted rwbhp and bhp acknowledging the difference. A quoted figure of 234 bhp at the crank should easily give you in the region of 215 - 220 rwbhp.
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Old Mar 26th 2019, 06:10 AM   #13
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I purposely quoted rwbhp and bhp acknowledging the difference. A quoted figure of 234 bhp at the crank should easily give you in the region of 215 - 220 rwbhp.
...and also be aware of how new bikes will make more power once broken in, how different dynos on different days in different conditions can give different results. Oh my God this conversation has been had so many times we should all know it by heart.

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Old Mar 26th 2019, 06:11 AM   #14
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Are there any other v4r dyno videos available to validate this theory?
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Old Mar 26th 2019, 06:24 AM   #15
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Because 200rwbhp put down through a contact patch smaller than the size of a credit card isn't enough ?

Agree with all the above comments re drive train loss, different dynos, different days.. all been said before and no doubt will be continue to be said.
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Old Mar 26th 2019, 06:25 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by Angus1609 View Post
...and also be aware of how new bikes will make more power once broken in, how different dynos on different days in different conditions can give different results. Oh my God this conversation has been had so many times we should all know it by heart.

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Maybe I'm just expecting too much? But I was hoping that it would equate to around 210 real world horsepower? And thats being generous allowing for a 24 bhp loss in transmission!

I'm not saying I personally need more etc, I understand there's all the other factors involved. But back to the original question I was wondering if there's more to the story and if it's been purposely choked back?
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Old Mar 26th 2019, 06:40 AM   #17
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DNA source just confirmed the 234hp figure for the R is flywheel, with race exhaust and upmap so take that for whatever it's worth ....who knows.
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Old Mar 26th 2019, 06:52 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by Vicati View Post
Itís restricted to be street legal, nothing a little flash & tune canít help


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Ok but what is restricted? Timing, fuel, Rpm's or speed or throttle bodies not opening all the way at WOT? that's the important things to know.
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Old Mar 26th 2019, 07:02 AM   #19
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Looks about right. As mentioned earlier, drivetrain partisitic loss is usually around 15%.

The 1299 crank horse power was 205 and mine put down 177 completely stock.
you do know that the crank was devalued on ducati due to not doing the proper numbers... the new HP on the 1299 and 1299s (not new but new to most who thought they got it at 205) is 197hp at the crank
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Old Mar 26th 2019, 08:47 AM   #20
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Scotman623 hit it pretty well. Pretty funny that 95% of the people on this board myself included have no idea what to do 180-200hp and scare themselves when that shit sneaks up on them. Unless you are racing the bike and youíre decent at doing so then anything over 180hp on a bike like that is more than enough for the skill sets that most mortals will ever attain. I have been riding with a few guys who have the V4 here in SoCal and while they donít represent everyone, the represent the majority. They show up on with all their sponsor laden matching gear and proceed to ride like a recently licensed individual on a Rebel 500. Unless youíre competing, dyno and spec # are for parking lot and chat board bragging rights. My neighbor has some supercharged mustang thingy. 800hp he claims. Itís never been over 70mph. Itís kinda like the scale folks. Some people are obsessed with the data it puts out but what does it really tell you?, your relevance to gravitational forced on this particular planet. Unfortunately no matter what the data shows, it doesnít change the fact that you may still look like you need a fitness plan. Now letís get back to posting how many micrograms we can save by drilling out a washer and posting the side by side scale pics.
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