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Old Apr 3rd 2019, 06:50 AM   #11
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Seems like some people that are inclined to want the V4R really should just get a H2R
or the s and the beemer. or the beemer M the r1 and the base cbr

but the R looks sooooooo good!!!!!!!
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Old Apr 3rd 2019, 07:09 AM   #12
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Seems like some people that are inclined to want the V4R really should just get a H2R
For me, there's more to it than power.
Moreover, I just don't want the look of a bunch of plastic parts flying in formation.
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Old Apr 3rd 2019, 07:14 AM   #13
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650 ib used the same dynos he compared apples to apples. the bikes made the about the same hp.
Using the same dyno doesn't give you an apples to apples comparison. What did you all expect when they got rid of the cheater CC (displacement)? I can see why some people are a little disappointed since many cheap Japanese and German bikes can make well over 200whp without hardly any upgrades.
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Old Apr 3rd 2019, 08:10 AM   #14
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My zx10r race bike has incredible top end but it’s a dog otherwise. I wouldn’t worry about the max hp too much.
The way it is delivered has a much more important effect, especially on the street.

On track you gear correctly and stay in the meat of the delivery most of the time so max hp might be more important.

Especially if you’re Rea ,haha.
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Old Apr 3rd 2019, 08:23 AM   #15
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Will see dyno results at EDR Performance later this week as well.
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Old Apr 3rd 2019, 08:33 AM   #16
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My zx10r race bike has incredible top end but it’s a dog otherwise. I wouldn’t worry about the max hp too much.
The way it is delivered has a much more important effect, especially on the street.

On track you gear correctly and stay in the meat of the delivery most of the time so max hp might be more important.

Especially if you’re Rea ,haha.
Rea isn't getting beat by the bike. He's getting beat by Bautista. The skill gap from MotoGP and WSBK is a lot more than everyone previously thought. This is evidenced by the fact many have the bike (V4R), but no one is handing it to the rest of the riders like Bautista is.
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^^ Not so sure about that, Rea did 7th + 8th I think on his GP outings. Thats better than Bautista did 90% of the time. Its never just he bike or just the racer: its the package. Good rider on factory bike usually = good results...
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Old Apr 3rd 2019, 08:59 AM   #18
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^^ Not so sure about that, Rea did 7th + 8th I think on his GP outings. Thats better than Bautista did 90% of the time. Its never just he bike or just the racer: its the package. Good rider on factory bike usually = good results...
I'm not discounting his familiarity with the bike allowing him to destroy the competition, but it's the rider. Again, is anyone else on the V4Rs even being competitive? Barely.

Rea having filled in for Casey Stoner in 2012 is a joke...why do you even bring it up? Try putting him with the current crop of riders and he's sure to get destroyed even worse than he is in WSBK.

Rea is not unfamiliar with his own bike.
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Old Apr 3rd 2019, 09:03 AM   #19
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^^ Not so sure about that, Rea did 7th + 8th I think on his GP outings. Thats better than Bautista did 90% of the time. Its never just he bike or just the racer: its the package. Good rider on factory bike usually = good results...
Let's be honest with ourselves...the other V4R riders are getting beat by Sykes, who is a one lap wonder, and is currently riding a BMW S1000RR with a stock motor...lol
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Bautista is killing it because he is riding a bike that fits his style of riding. 16 seconds ahead of the field reminded me of Mick Doohan's performance in WSB back in the mid-to late 1990's.
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