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Old Apr 9th 2019, 06:47 PM   #1
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Anyone going to COTA in MAY RIDESMART

Anyone is going to the RDESMART trackday in COTA in MAY?

any advice in SLICKS For cota, or any other pointers about the track, first time there
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Old Apr 9th 2019, 06:58 PM   #2
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I'm going, but no advice to offer about track characteristics at this time. This will be my first time riding at COTA. I will guess though, the Supercorsas should do really well based on my experience so far. Curious about what others have to say as well.

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Bringing my V4R and will run SC1's like I did with my 1199R. Its a lot of turns so will take several sessions to wrap your head around it. Don't rush it, there are some turns that you can get into too hot and run out of track. Great track that encourages some crazy lean angle.
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Old Apr 9th 2019, 07:21 PM   #4
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Anyone is going to the RDESMART trackday in COTA in MAY?

any advice in SLICKS For cota, or any other pointers about the track, first time there
Yep, I'll be there. In the Eleven Motorsports garages. I'm running Dunlop now through a sponsorship deal for racing, but have the most experience with Pirelli. I know most guys here likely run Pirelli, as that is what the bike was built around.

End of May should be in the mid to high 90's easily. Most people run the SC2's out there, which are a decent choice, but I've been running SC1's front and rear for the last 3-4 weekends out there and would never go back to the SC2.

I've chatted with the Pirelli guys at length and what most people don't realize is the SC1 is engineered for much higher operating temperatures. This is Texas and it gets damn hot.. and that is just ambient. Track temp is much much higher. I would occasionally hot tear the SC2's on those warmer days. That and the SC1's have AMAZING grip. Definitely a step up from the SC2. This mostly focused on the rear.

The front is slightly different. It's more about feel and grip. The SC2 front is a bit more stable under braking, but much more vague mid-corner. The SC1 isn't quite as stable, but way more front end feel mid-corner. Personally, I opt for the mid-corner feel all day over the stability under braking.

The pressure recommendation between the SC2 and SC1 are quite a bit different too. Pirelli recommends a bit lower pressure in the rear (around 24-26psi) and you can go a bit higher in the front (34-36), if you are want a bit more of the stability like the SC2. I kept my front around 33/34psi hot and my rear @ 24 hot. For reference, I run a fast lap at around a 2:20 or so @ cota with that setup.

I ran my first full race weekend on the Dunlop's and really like them so far. Took home 3 wins and one 2nd already on Dunlop. I'm running the 0129 (super soft) in the front and the same 0129 (super soft) in the rear. That front is their softest offering and pretty comparable to the SC1. The rear they offer an ultra soft, which is a step below what I'm running now, but I haven't tried it out yet. The 0129 rear grip is amazing! The carcass is much stiffer compared to the Pirelli and Dunlop had us running 22psi hot on the rear. They worked extremely well and took me to the Podium 4/4 races. I will be running Dunlop for the first time at COTA next Tuesday after MotoGP. Running the Aprilia Racers track day event out there.
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Here is one of my videos from COTA if you want to study lines, track layout and get a reference for braking points and whatnot. Track time starts around the 1:20 mark or so.


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Any thoughts about

SC2 front
SC3 rear

For COTA

Someone is recommending this setup

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Any thoughts about

SC2 front
SC3 rear

For COTA

Someone is recommending this setup

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SC3 should last a bit longer (and actually has a higher temp threshold) than an SC2, but at the cost of less overall grip. SC1 will have the better performance and the temp threshold is similar to the SC3. May likely depend more on your skill level than anything else.

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SC3 should last a bit longer (and actually has a higher temp threshold) than an SC2, but at the cost of less overall grip. SC1 will have the better performance and the temp threshold is similar to the SC3. May likely depend more on your skill level than anything else.

What group are you signed up in?

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I signed up for GROUP 3

I ride a intermediate advance pace
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Need to ask yourself what's more important.. longevity in tire wear or superior grip? If you're riding in L3, you might be pushing a bit harder than the average out there and may likely benefit from the increase in grip that the SC1 could provide.

If you are riding both days and are trying to make the tires last the duration, you might consider the SC3 rear. If you are ok with maybe dropping some xtra $ on a fresh rear after saturday, I'd go with the SC1. Depending on how hard your pushing, the SC1 *might* last you through Sunday.

The front should last both days pretty easy if you don't cold tear it or something on accident (make sure they are toasty on the warmers before each session). SC1 or SC2 on the front. Personally, I'd opt for the SC1, as it has way better feel in the corners when your really depending on your front end. But, it really depends on what you are looking for.
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Need to ask yourself what's more important.. longevity in tire wear or superior grip? If you're riding in L3, you might be pushing a bit harder than the average out there and may likely benefit from the increase in grip that the SC1 could provide.

If you are riding both days and are trying to make the tires last the duration, you might consider the SC3 rear. If you are ok with maybe dropping some xtra $ on a fresh rear after saturday, I'd go with the SC1. Depending on how hard your pushing, the SC1 *might* last you through Sunday.

The front should last both days pretty easy if you don't cold tear it or something on accident (make sure they are toasty on the warmers before each session). SC1 or SC2 on the front. Personally, I'd opt for the SC1, as it has way better feel in the corners when your really depending on your front end. But, it really depends on what you are looking for.
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Yes, riding 2 days on the V4 at COTA

Want to try it, to find better grip over the supercorsas

And a bit more longevity
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