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Old May 1st 2019, 10:11 AM   #1
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Naked V4 Street Fighter?

The Pikes Peak V4 custom that Carlin is racing at Pikes Peak this year has been a hot topic of conversation this week in our shop, and the conversation always steers toward to the subject of Ducati releasing a naked V4 street bike. Would you like to see a Naked version of the Panigale V4? Would you actually buy a naked bike with 220HP and handlebars on it? To me, I think back to the 1098 Streetfigther, which was the bike that EVERYONE said they wanted. And then it came out and NO ONE bought it (relatively). I can't even count how many people looked at that bike and ultimately bought a 1098/1198 instead. It always SOUNDS like a good idea to make a more street-oriented version of the flagship superbike that is perceived as more "comfortable". It does make great magazine covers. But is it actually a great bike to own?

My 2C is that I would be excited about a 150-ish HP naked V4 street bike. I love my Multistrada 1200, but I ride it more l like a sport bike since I don't do any touring. That amount of power is plenty for any street riding I will ever do, I can't even envision it having 220HP, it would be a complete waste for me.

What say you?? Are you all-aboard the 220HP naked bike train?
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Old May 1st 2019, 10:40 AM   #2
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For me, it would also have to be visually appealing. Looks are obviously subjective but probably the most important factor in my buying decision with cars and bikes. Performance isn't that important to me, especially with bikes since they're all pretty much really good in today's world. That said, I personally like the look of the Tuono Factory. I think Aprilia did a good enough job on the visuals to keep it similar in looks to the RSV4. If Ducati did the same, the only thing left for them to do would be to stay competitive in pricing with others who offer similar bikes. Then and only then would it do well in sales. Personal opinion of course.
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I doubt they would give it the full 220 hp of the panigale. They would probably do something similar to the tuono and tune it for usable torque and hp would end up in the 180-190ish range at a lower rpm than the panigale. Still obviously more than enough, but it sure would be awesome as hell.

I've been very close to buying a tuono recently. Everyone says it's the perfect street bike. Hopefully Ducati will enter the game too... And price it reasonably!
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I owned the 1098 SF but honestly it was not anymore comfortable then my regular 1098. I guess for me it would depend on how it sits. I do agree that 220 HP is to much for canyon riding.

I do like riding my V4 but mostly ride my 1250 GS on the streets. The crazy thing is that the GS is such a great do everything bike but I keep looking to make a change because I feel old riding it lol.
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I couldn't care less about a street fighter, unless people would really buy them (I say this cause I just want people buying bikes). It feels like it would compete with the hyper line which seems to be in a great spot now. @Jarel I am curious what your sales break downs are roughly per segment - superbike // hyper // multi // monster // diavel // scrambler if you can divulge ...?
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I couldn't care less about a street fighter, unless people would really buy them (I say this cause I just want people buying bikes). It feels like it would compete with the hyper line which seems to be in a great spot now. @Jarel I am curious what your sales break downs are roughly per segment - superbike // hyper // multi // monster // diavel // scrambler if you can divulge ...?
I don't see any reason it would be confidential, here is a 3-year average for the past 3 years just for our store:
13% Diavel
8% Hyper
15% Monster
16% Multi
22% Scram
22% Superbike
4% SuperSport

P.S. - And I agree the new Hyper 950 is a great bike!
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Just for fun, I ran 2007, our first full season as a Ducati dealer:

9% Hyper
43% Monster
2% Multi
11% Sport Classic
4% Sport Touring
32% Superbike

Ducati has certainly come a LONG way in diversifying the model lineup in the past 12 years! Fully 75% of the sales were from two model families, Monster & Superbike.
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That is about what my dealer in CA has for sales. They were selling a lot 959's but that has tapered. It seems like most of what they sell are Super bike, Multi & Monster.
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Looks are important to me. I want to like the looks of the bike I'm going to ride. Power wise on the street I like to have torque down low in the RPM range. It's the reason I have such a fun time on my Multi. It has power lower in the rev range and pulls hard. I don't have to go stupid fast to get that rush of power which helps keep things reasonable safe on the streets.
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Old May 1st 2019, 06:48 PM   #10
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I think the last streetfighter ducati made looked amazing, would be awesome i think if they
released another...

The naked class is thriving these days, quite a few decent bikes to choose from if thats
your thing.

My fav i've ridden has to be the ktm superduke 1290, killer bike. Wheelie machine.
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