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Old Jul 11th 2019, 07:10 PM   #51
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Originally Posted by love2ride View Post
Tough call man. I have always enjoyed the twin on the street (I have not ridden a V4). All accounts say that the twin has more torque low down so I would choose it for the street and smiles.
What i find interesting is people who've ridden both the V4S and V4R claim the R has no torque.... I test rode the V4S a few months back (I had my then 1299 to compare with) and was just disappointed with the V4S' lack of torque... it had absolutely nothing! I can only imagine how less the V4R has. In saying that, without doubt the V4 (much like the S1000RR) is the better overall bike, you would have to be a clown to think otherwise. Subjectively though, the man handling nature of the twin and that effortless torque would still win me over.
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Old Jul 12th 2019, 04:54 AM   #52
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Thanks for the reply.

I'm no pro racer or anything so all of these machines are more than what someone like me really needs. However I love bikes and like having bikes that make me smile not only in appearance but when out for a ride. We have a lot of open roads up here to play on. I was debating the 1299fe vs the v4r. I like them both but can only swing one for now, so was wanting to get the one that will put that smile on your face for years to come. Doesnt necessarily need to be the better sorted bike. I have a couple others to play around on so want each one to be unique in their own way.

I guess we all know the v4r is the better bike.....but what puts a bigger smile on you face riding? Your 1299sl or your v4r?

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If you are chasing lap times, sure the V4r might be faster for you. Hard to say, you are probably the same speed within margins of a second on either machine. As far as all out ridiculousness the FE is pretty hard to beat. Its an animal. The V4r is without a doubt more refined, smooth and predictable. When the FE came out I knew I wanted it. The Speciale came out people asked me if I wanted to change my mind. Absolutely not was my answer. I track and race a 2015 1199r. Could I go faster on the V4R, sure....whats more fun? That big thumping 1199 L2!
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Old Jul 12th 2019, 06:51 AM   #54
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Originally Posted by McobraR View Post
What i find interesting is people who've ridden both the V4S and V4R claim the R has no torque.... I test rode the V4S a few months back (I had my then 1299 to compare with) and was just disappointed with the V4S' lack of torque... it had absolutely nothing! I can only imagine how less the V4R has. In saying that, without doubt the V4 (much like the S1000RR) is the better overall bike, you would have to be a clown to think otherwise. Subjectively though, the man handling nature of the twin and that effortless torque would still win me over.
Once you get to experience a big powerful twin, nothing else compares (in terms of fun factor) on the street !
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Old Jul 12th 2019, 09:00 AM   #55
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I went from the 1199 to the V4R.

I took a friends V4S (with akra installed) out for a spin when i had my 1199. I was worried about the torque and the lack of 'grunt' when i got on it. But once i got moving, i realized how much more fun the V4S was to ride for me. It was confidence inspiring. I felt more at home. was the torque gone, yes, but it was not forgotten. The torque was less but it was more manageable and easier to handle. We all know the 1199 was not fun around town, i had a jerky throttle and horrible mapping. The V4 made it much confidence inspiring.

I then decided i wanted to upgrade. But i wasnt stopping at the V4S once i saw the unveil in person of the R. I put my deposit down. Once i put my deposit down, and was riding my 1199 around, i lost respect for that bike. it seemed lack luster, it didnt put a smile on my face anymore. The V2 was too dated at that point.

I sold my 1199 the day before i took delivery of my V4R. I was sad to say the least, but once i rode the V4R it went out the window.

Does the V4R have less torque than the V4, yes, and a lot less torque than the V2. But it very forgiving. IE it rides like a 600 under 8k and like a banshee over 9k. Its a different bike. One draw back i have, is the heat on the V4R makes the 1199 seem like the arctic tundra. I have the akra installed on the V4R and its still almost unbearable unless you are doing 80+. I never complained about my 1199, but that is my only complaint of the V4R.

I had a smile on my face all the time when riding with my 1199, and now i have a smile that doesnt go away when i see my bike let alone ride it. I have seen my 1199 out and parked my V4R next to it... and i am not upset with my decision to let her go. She served me well, but this new breed makes my heart thump even more.
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Old Jul 12th 2019, 09:18 AM   #56
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@KMY, nice bike man!

@lamb00j, agreed! I too noticed the heat on the V4R over the V4/S. I think this is due to the fairings which are wider and push the away around the rider so there is less cooling effect on the rider.
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@KMY, nice bike man!

@lamb00j, agreed! I too noticed the heat on the V4R over the V4/S. I think this is due to the fairings which are wider and push the away around the rider so there is less cooling effect on the rider.
The V4R feels warmer than the V4?!! Dang!
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