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Old Aug 29th 2019, 08:16 AM   #71
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Originally Posted by RdashP View Post
no SC? RU sure?

"...The dry clutch guarantees important benefits in ease of handling: in particular, a more effective slipper function"

According to V4(s) Datasheet


Benefit of dry SC is particular sound and less oil contamination, since clutch wear dust is not pumped around oil cooling circuit.
Yes I am sure :-) This is marketing! I have raced a 1098R at a national level using a dry clutch and I can tell you from personal experience that a dry clutch is more of a pain in the ass that a benefit. The life of the plates is shorter, you can't let them slip very much and that happens A LOT on a race start - there are tricks to get around this....

The dry clutch is on the bike for one reason alone; Ducati HAD to homologate it in order to race with it - notice no other WSBK has a dry clutch....

Anyway, there is literally no difference between the slipper clutch in a bike using a wet clutch - there are small differences in design - some use ball bearings on the inner hub (STM, EVR, Suter/Hinson, Yoyodyne) and some just use ramps. Some clutches allow the ramp angle to be tuned, etc, etc.... The basic function is exactly the same but the oil bath keeps the plates cooler.

On my 1098R I could do one, maybe two race starts on 1 set of new clutch plates

On my current race bike, a 2017 ZX-10RR with a Suter clutch, I can get 8-10 race launches.

Also, I change my oil every 1000 hard canyon miles or every 3 race weekends....never seen anything in the oil clutch wear related - the plates are designed to wear and not cause an issue with the motor.
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Old Aug 29th 2019, 08:18 AM   #72
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edit, woah your quick to reply!
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Old Aug 29th 2019, 08:20 AM   #73
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Yes @Tj, all the V4 models have a slipper clutch....
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Originally Posted by roadracerx View Post
Yes @Tj, all the V4 models have a slipper clutch....
Thanks, I mis-read that to say it didnt have a slipper, I think it was in reference to wet vs dry clutch.
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Question for the people here, someone said they were able to fit the R fairings onto the base?

I might do that in the future for aesthetic reasons mainly (track/race later since I'm still using a 250 to up riding skill).
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Old Aug 29th 2019, 11:13 AM   #76
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Question for the people here, someone said they were able to fit the R fairings onto the base?...
Originally Posted by 01COCCOBET View Post
To let my V4 base a little cooler,I mounted the R fairings ... My next step,before buying the R,is to test it side to side
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I race with an aftermarket fiberglass fairings that replicate the V4R fairings,included the the winglets,due to a better cooking...
@01COCCOBET has done so
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Originally Posted by RdashP View Post
Since everything in life is a compromise with its pro's and cons, w.o. black & white,
I'd suggest both R and S are technical variants to the same great theme geared to their specific usage scenario
(i.e. pure 'WSBK' style racing homologation & more generic track-/street usage)?

Same as with the almost 'religious' discussion between Pani Twin and V4: both are inspiring technical feasts.
Let us just continue to make it an interesting and fun, not a 'best vs. bad' discussion?
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Question for the people here, someone said they were able to fit the R fairings onto the base?

I might do that in the future for aesthetic reasons mainly (track/race later since I'm still using a 250 to up riding skill).

I confirm.
I did it,but not for aesthetic,but mainly for cooling and secondly for the small advantage from the wings to keep it squeezed on the ground decreasing the will to wheely(Excuse my French).
With the wings,I was suggest I could rise the bike to allow more weight transfers and turning in,but reduce the wheeling.
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Originally Posted by roadracerx View Post
Yes I am sure :-) This is marketing!
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Old Aug 29th 2019, 01:05 PM   #79
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So...who makes a race fairing package...that accommodates or includes wings? (I think looking cool is important on the track)
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@MMC --> Plastic Bike (from Europe) makes the fairings Ducati uses for World Superstock.... See pics below.
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