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Old Jun 18th 2019, 01:44 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by PanigaleV4S View Post
I've seen the new S1000RR M spec in person and it is pretty underwhelming visually. Apart from the new headlights, which look great, the rest of the bike looks cheap and dated in my opinion.

It's obviously a great bike on the track, but it's even more refined than the previous generation S1000RR, so it's going to be pretty boring on the road. I owned a 2016 S1000RR and while it had great power and a crazy top end, it was quite bland to ride compared to my V4S.

Even the guys on 44Teeth said that they'd pick the V4S over the new S1000RR for street riding, as the V4S just had that wow factor and character that the S1000RR just doesn't have.

Everyone's different though and wants different things from their bikes.
I freely admit that the wow factor was part of why I bought my 1199. But it was (and still is) one of three bikes I own, and the owner of the dealer has been a friend of mine for many years so it was an easy deal. He even let me do a 100 mile demo ride on his personal 1199 before I bought mine.

But for most people who it is their only bike, I would liken it to a lady you marry. Good looks might have been a factor in asking her out on a date. But there better be more than just good looks if you want the relationship to last. I do admit though, it’s a hell of a lot cheaper to divorce a motorcycle. Don’t ask me how I know
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Old Jun 18th 2019, 02:11 PM   #42
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Yeah Missing Link....
Was it 44 teeth who reported this?
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Old Jun 18th 2019, 02:23 PM   #43
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New BMW is not comfy as it was with previous gen.

Also, there is stop on sale on new BMW and recalls to all. They say issue with engine. This is recent news.
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Old Jun 18th 2019, 02:50 PM   #44
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New BMW is not comfy as it was with previous gen.

Also, there is stop on sale on new BMW and recalls to all. They say issue with engine. This is recent news.
It only effected 2 weeks of production in May, it doesn't effect all bikes. Mine was produced beginning of April and is not effected. They are replacing the engines in the bikes that were effected from that run.

The only complaint I have seen in regards to comfort is the seat, which is rock hard, but is amazing for the track or short stints. The rest of the ergonomics have been improved over the last gen.
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Old Jun 18th 2019, 02:51 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by tifosi1299 View Post
Correct but bang for the buck, comfort and performance Ducati is in trouble... I'm jumping to M-spec Bmw and can't wait!!!

I'm not spending 27K for V4S and worry about oil leaks, recalls and 1500$ major service

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Is it just me or does anyone else kind of think the old s1000rr with the asymmetry was better looking than the new bike? Controversial to many, but I kind of liked it and it gave it character. The new BMW looks like any ol Japanese bike now. Great engine for sure great bang for the buck but aesthetically uninspired and kind of cheap looking.

Honestly the hp4 is beautiful
Me too, i liked it. Looked like a pissed of wasp.

A pissed of GERMAN wasp.
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Old Jun 18th 2019, 03:02 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by lamb00j View Post
You are correct. This would fix this silly dumb issue on their premier bike... but if they do this on such a cheap fix, that will make it monumentally better.. what else did they skimp on? Just makes you think.
you mean like RTV on a $40k bike? lol...throwing stones in glass houses. I heard they passed along the DQS-err to the V4R...what morons didn't figure that one out already, it was a major issue on the V4/S/Speciale...
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Old Jun 18th 2019, 03:05 PM   #47
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Yes, the V4s is the midrange Panigale, what do you call it??? The comparo didnt say best 25k sport bike that I read. If you want cheap, you are in the wrong forum, bang for your buck isn't in the liter class at all, check out the 600's.
I dunno about the states... But here in aus you can buy a brand new litrebike blade atm
for 15,750 ride away...

I'd say thats pretty good bang for your buck atm....

Originally Posted by PanigaleV4S View Post
I've seen the new S1000RR M spec in person and it is pretty underwhelming visually. Apart from the new headlights, which look great, the rest of the bike looks cheap and dated in my opinion.

It's obviously a great bike on the track, but it's even more refined than the previous generation S1000RR, so it's going to be pretty boring on the road. I owned a 2016 S1000RR and while it had great power and a crazy top end, it was quite bland to ride compared to my V4S.

Even the guys on 44Teeth said that they'd pick the V4S over the new S1000RR for street riding, as the V4S just had that wow factor and character that the S1000RR just doesn't have.

Everyone's different though and wants different things from their bikes.
In regards to the bmw im more pissed off that they're releasing it as far as i know here...

In two colors.. Red for the normal base ones, and m spec...

2 colors!? What the hell.
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I dunno about the states... But here in aus you can buy a brand new litrebike blade atm
for 15,750 ride away...

I'd say thats pretty good bang for your buck atm....
In a street sense yes the CBR isnt near as expensive as some of the others. I should qualify my statement as aimed at the track, liter bikes go through things like tires/brakes/parts much faster and more $$
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Who the hell can see what the bike looks like when your riding it? I would think that the quality and performance of the bike is a little more important than if the headlights are the same size. Unless you love Starbucks and grape flavored kool aid too....
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After 3+ seasons on the track with my 2012 1199S, I managed to kill "Sophia".
Thought about getting another 1199S, because I am familiar with it, and now have a bunch of spare parts
Looked at a bunch of reviews, and the one that got my attention was MCN's review of V4S, 1299S, and Aprilia. Aprilia is too compact for me. MCN thought the V4 was a major step ahead of the 1299.
So V4 rose to the top.
Read about the new BMW. Looks like it is a major improvement over last generation, and I have ridden the last generation and it was fun and easy to ride relative to the 1199. Costs less than the V4.

Decided to get a left over 2018 V4.

I like Ducatis, plain and simple.
If you race bikes for a living or because anyone else thinks more or less of you because you aren't the fastest guy/gal on the track, well OK.
I am not in the club.




I'm 67 years old. This will likely be my last superbike.

I have done a bunch of sh..... in my life that I regret.
Not going to add not buying a V4 to the list.

FWIW, my wife told me to do it or I would always wish I had.
Bless her


As many different right answers as there are folks out there I imagine.
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